I have both a spin pole and a whisker pole. We use the whisker for main and
jib races, and it is superior for the reasons you stated. We use a topping
lift. We have also used a down haul in heavy stuff (after the chute comes down
due to too much breeze/wave action). As issue we have encountered is getting
the sheet out from the pole end in the heavy stuff.
From: David Knecht via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2019 9:33 AM
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Cc: David Knecht
Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
I have to disagree with the recommendation to just use the spinnaker pole. I
bought a whisker pole because it weighs much less than the spinnaker pole and I
can store it vertically attached at the mast end. I don’t think I could
maneuver the spinnaker pole in place by myself on the unstable deck of a boat
downwind. I don’t trust my balance plus it is really heavy and unwieldy even
on firm ground. The whisker pole also allows me to set different lengths
depending on conditions.
Related to that: I read the Forespar recommendations on whisker pole use the
other day. They strongly recommended using a topping lift. I have not done
that although I have one. It seems like it might affect sail shape as the
weight of the pole pulling down on the clew might alter the shape of the leech
of the sail. I will play when I can sail again, but wonder if anyone has
thoughts. Dave
S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
On Mar 29, 2019, at 7:04 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Pretty serious racers there worrying about using a whisker pole longer than J
and the associated time penalty and that is really only a consideration on a
run. There are so many other reasons to take extra seconds or minutes to
complete the course. Just stick with your spin pole use your topping lift and
pole the genoa out a little to windward so wing on wing with genoa to weather
Always found that fastest on a run and less chance of accidental jibe of the
mainsail. Try it if you got a spinn pole onboard
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 7:48 PM David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
If I were racing in that neck of the woods I would like some clarification
of this. Unrestricted pole length is a major advantage...especially in light
airs.
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 12:40:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Downwind sailing- Whisker pole length and height
Not much in the PHRF-LO Handicapper's manual on the topic. It is covered in
meeting notes from 2008 and 2009.
WPL penalty – There will no longer be a penalty for oversized Whisker Pole
lengths.
2009 Spring Meeting.
https://www.phrf-lo.org/index.php/about-us/meetings/central-council/205-2009-spring-meeting
It would be nice if there was some definitive statement in the current
documentation but I
do not see any.
Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 12:45:53 +0000
From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Michael
Check the PHRF-LO bylaws carefully. In PHRF-NS the whicker pole is
considered to be a spinnaker pole which is limited to J. You may wish to look
in a definitions section if one is available. I have been involved with
handicapping for many years in our region and this is my understanding of how
most areas do it. However I do know there are some areas that have separate
limit for whisker pole than for spinnaker pole that is permitted to be longer
than J ? I just cannot recall at this time which areas those are
Mike
Persistence
Halifax, NS
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