Here's my two cents. I almost never use the main - at all - in heavy wind,
upwind or downwind. I roller furl till it's comfortable, and that's that. To
jibe single handed, I first wrap the jib on the opposite side, pull out all the
slack and then a bit more, and cleat it - easy with a self-tailer. Then I
jibe. The now short sheet on the opposing side keeps the jib from wrapping.
Then I set the autopilot to hold heading and trim the sail. Been doing this for
a long time, locking the tiller or wheel when there was no autopilot.
Dan SheerPegathy - LF38Rock Creek off the Patapsco
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4. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Headsail only in strong winds astern
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That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and
ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We didn't
even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady 10-11 knots
boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around and then
discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about
jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more
helm and worry.
Jib alone is so simple.
David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
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Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern.?
OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind
is 30+ knots even with some ofthe 'telephone pole' masts on some C&Cs when only
a head sail is flown.
Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in
addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm
if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!).
Charlie NelsonWater PhantomC&C 36 XL/kcb
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{} #yiv9367103573 That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind
blowing 55+ and ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees
ashore. We didn?t even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a
steady 10-11 knots boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn
around and then discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots! ? ? Joe
Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I ? ? ? From: CnC-List
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake ? Or leave
the main down downwind.?? Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about
jibing,? main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more
helm and worry. ? Jib alone is so simple. ? David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern
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Interesting comments about sailing with jib (genoa) alone.
I tend to avoid DDW courses, if I could help it.
Personally, I find it easier, especially, when shorthanded, to gybe with both
sails up (the jib is shadowed by the main and I claim that I have the manoeuvre
of gybing the main reasonably well rehearsed).
I freely admit that I have problems gybing singlehanded with the jib alone when
it is windy (25+). With two people (one at the helm, one at the sheet) it is
not a problem, but single handed, I always have problems with the jib either
trying to wrap around the forestay or flapping in the wind incessantly. I don?t
have the autohelm to help.
Do you have some ideas how to do it correctly (or well)? On a couple of
occasions I simply furled it in and unfurled on the other tack. But this is
almost like a chicken gybe. Any ideas?
Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
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Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern
Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern.
OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind
is 30+ knots even with some of
the 'telephone pole' masts on some C&Cs when only a head sail is flown.
Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in
addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm
if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!).
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
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Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake
That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and
ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We didn?t
even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady 10-11 knots
boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around and then
discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake
Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about
jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more
helm and worry.
Jib alone is so simple.
David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650
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The furling idea is not a bad one.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern
Interesting comments about sailing with jib (genoa) alone.
I tend to avoid DDW courses, if I could help it.
Personally, I find it easier, especially, when shorthanded, to gybe with both
sails up (the jib is shadowed by the main and I claim that I have the manoeuvre
of gybing the main reasonably well rehearsed).
I freely admit that I have problems gybing singlehanded with the jib alone when
it is windy (25+). With two people (one at the helm, one at the sheet) it is
not a problem, but single handed, I always have problems with the jib either
trying to wrap around the forestay or flapping in the wind incessantly. I don?t
have the autohelm to help.
Do you have some ideas how to do it correctly (or well)? On a couple of
occasions I simply furled it in and unfurled on the other tack. But this is
almost like a chicken gybe. Any ideas?
Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 12:26
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Cc: cenel...@aol.com<mailto:cenel...@aol.com>
Subject: Stus-List Headsail only in strong winds astern
Agree with philosophy of not using main in heavy winds astern.
OTOH, I wonder about the unbalanced forces on the stays/boat when a stern wind
is 30+ knots even with some of
the 'telephone pole' masts on some C&Cs when only a head sail is flown.
Mine mast is rather bendy with check stays and in high winds downwind, in
addition to keeping her under control, I admit to some fear of a gravity storm
if I only used the head sail (or with both sails for that matter!).
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
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Sent: Mon, Mar 18, 2019 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake
That too. We had an awesome run down the Severn with the wind blowing 55+ and
ripping foam off the wavetops and throwing it up in the trees ashore. We didn?t
even think about the main, the working jib alone gave us a steady 10-11 knots
boatspeed. Everything was going great until we had to turn around and then
discovered our speed under motor was about 0.5 knots!
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via
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Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com<mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Gybe preventer, now Boom Brake
Or leave the main down downwind. Anytime it blowing hard enough to worry about
jibing, main is probably not going to add alot of speed, but will cause more
helm and worry.
Jib alone is so simple.
David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650
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