David,

the pex installation with the simple pex insert fittings and band clamps are no more expensive that any other hosed connection.  It can be more expensive if you make it that way by using shark bite fittings and such.  The banded clamps are really cheap and it you're not adding valves or distribution blocks it is just as inexpensive, maybe even more-so, than reinforced hose with quality hose clamps.   I made home runs of everything because I'm just out of my mind...  You can just run mains and tee off, locally, to various fixtures just as they did in the factory.   the pex system would be faster too, because you would not need to be tightening up all those hose clamps, the pex bands are also way less bulky.


you can see for yourself on Sunday.


Danny


On 1/31/2019 8:46 AM, David via CnC-List wrote:
Josh, Bob (and others),

Thank you.  I was thinking simple plastic barbed fittings with reinforced hose and hose clamps are simple and effective.  My only concern, from reading, is the hose not being opaque enough to eliminate any growth in the lines.  But then, these water hoses are all hidden and out of the sun so no issue there (I believe).

The PEX and Sharkbite systems all seem to be an expensive, over-engineered solution for this simple application.  Which is why I asked the question to begin with.

Thanks again.

*David F. Risch, J. D.*

*/GulfStreamAssociates,LLC/**
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*Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:37 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Josh Muckley
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...
Shark bite is one popular manufacturer.  They are typically metal fittings and considerably higher cost compared to the plastic alternative made by Watts.  Both are significantly more expensive than the barbed fittings and crimp.

In residential settings one of the significant cost advantages is the "home run" topology.  Since the tubing is flexible, elbows and tees are no longer needed like they would be on a copper installation.  Similarly the time associated with assembly is reduced considerably. One continuous pipe from source to destination.  The bend radius and methods of securing the tube/pipe in place makes the "home run" a bit more challenging on board a boat.

A home run using a flexible drinking water hose product like that made by Shields or Trident is my choice.  The flexibility coupled with the freeze protection and durability all and up to a quality and lasting solution. Use barbed brass fittings and clamps.  It sounds like this was Bob Boyer's solution.

Trident #162, 163, 164, or 165
https://tridentmarine.com/product/trident-reinforced-pvc-hose-164162/

https://www.westmarine.com/WestAdvisor/Selecting-Marine-Hoses

This is the lowest price per foot I could quickly find... And it is more expensive than PEX.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004CR4OP4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_zONuCb7PXTPM7

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD




On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 11:00 PM Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

    I’ve done a couple of plumbing and landscaping projects using PEX
    tubing. Lowes and probably Home Depot sell a fitting for PEX
    tubing that uses small teeth where the fitting engages the tubing
    and requires no special tool. You simply push the fitting into the
    tube. I’ve not had any leaks I know of. I can’t recall the brand
    name.

    *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
    <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *David via
    CnC-List
    *Sent:* Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:06 AM
    *To:* CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
    *Cc:* David <davidrisc...@msn.com <mailto:davidrisc...@msn.com>>
    *Subject:* Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

    I am sure this has been gone over before...so please indulge me.

    Replacing, re-designing, water lines in 1981 40-2.  Pex is the
    obvious choice.   Are there less obvious (and have cheaper tools
    required to install) choices?

    Has anyone improved on the original design?   I am thinking of
    adding easier accessible manifolds and an additional line for
    antifreeze and blowing out water.

    Thanks in advance.

    *David F. Risch, J. D.*

    */Gulf Stream Associates, LLC/***

    *(401) 419-4650 *

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