If you have a problem already, the biocide is a bit too late. It is a 
prevention, not a cure.

Also, it seems that most water that gets inside the tank is either from the 
dirty fuel or from the water ingress through the vent or fill tube (the O-ring 
on the filler cap is usually gone).

Marek

1994 C270 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON



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I would also suggest you put in a good Biocide...

Neil Andersen
1982 C&C 32 - FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661
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Get a vacuum gauge! I have found that to be an invaluable tool to diagnose fuel 
system issues.
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Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I



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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dirty fuel?

The other day when motoring the engine quit when pulling into the marina.
Got it going again to make the slip but then it quit again.  Repeat a few 
times.  We thought the most likely culprit was the new fuel gauge not being 
configured correctly and had run out of diesel.  Second culprit may be dirty 
fuel as had been sailing with very little fuel in the tank and that could stir 
things up.

So the next day we began the investigation.

We hadn't run out of diesel and there is about 1/4 of a tank.  Checked the 
primary filter which is new and it doesn't look too bad.  Started the engine 
again and it ran and then quit a couple of times.  Trying again we rev'd it 
hard just before it could die and it kept going even when we put it back to 
idle.  Now it seems to run fine.  But it doesn't instil confidence.  

In the C&C fuel tank you can take out the gauge and you have a little (2
inch?) hole you can see into the tank.  We put a camera in there and can see 
the bottom of the tank is about 50% covered with black.  The rest shines.
If you swirl a stick in there the black sediment is definitely light and moves.

So perhaps it is the fuel filters.  The secondary filter is not one you can 
look into so it could be there.  Sailing the boat with little fuel in a 
following sea would definitely stir things up.  But why is the engine running 
well now if it is a plugged filter?  Why didn't it require bleeding?

We got a quote to polish the fuel tank and it is decidedly not cheap.  In fact 
I'd go all the way to damned expensive.

So the questions:

1. Has anyone else had a similar experience and was it the fuel filters?  We 
never had to bleed the lines and the engine now runs fine.

2. Does anyone have another idea as to what it could be?  The engine only has 
500 hours on it and starts and runs like a top (if you forgive the two 
alternators we have already gone through.  Manufacturing fault on both claimed 
by alternator repair people.)

3. Can someone give advice on how to clean the fuel.  We have access in the 
front of the tank but not behind the baffle which is about in the middle (I
think).  The hole is small to options seem limited.   Can you dissolve the
sediment?   How did you flush it all out?  

Thanks for any help.

Don Jonsson
Andante, C&C 34
Victoria




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