IMHO in this depressed market for boats, I would get a 30 if there is any 
chance that would be the boat you would end up with anyway.
Size vs. use is different for different people. I cannot see how I would use my 
boat more if she was 5 or 10 feet shorter or use her less if she was 5 or 10 
feet longer. I still have to untie all the dock lines, motor out of the marina, 
set a sail or two, douse a sail or two, motor back in, and tie up the docklines.
What happens to bigger boats is you get more stuff and want to keep all that 
stuff working. Most 26 foot boat owners are not spending the day fixing the AIS 
feed to the plotter and adding ground radials to the SSB. You don’t HAVE to 
have that stuff on a bigger boat either, but usually you do add more things to 
fill all the new space you have. Well maybe I was wrong after all, if there are 
X sailing hours a year I spend a subset of X fixing things a 25 foot boat just 
wouldn’t have.
Here is a big division: Outboard vs. Inboard. Outboards are put in the trunk 
and taken to the shop to be fixed or heaved in the dumpster and replaced when 
they don’t work. Inboards, not so much, usually much more $$$ to fix or 
replace. New engine and shop rate to install is usually more than the boat is 
worth.
Sails are another division. Sails seem to go up more like X squared than X. Big 
boat sails can get expensive! 30 is still on the good side of this though.
Joe
Coquina
C&C 35  MK I

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

But boy you guys are good!!! Lol

And I do appreciate the suggestions and comments. I tend to overthink and over 
reaserch sometimes but have always found it helpful to get multiple view 
points... particularly from the source. It’s great to have such an active, 
knowledgeable, and supportive group here!

I know, regardless of my decision, I have a great resource here on the forum.

Chris


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On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 9:32 AM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I second David's comments; when I bought my first C&C, (1982 25 II); it never 
dawned on me that I would be trading up; however, there is a growth curve that 
happens once you get on the boat and learn how it functions and how to use the 
boat;  After having the boat for several years, I was on a friend's larger boat 
(a J-29), and I remember thinking (to myself)...I can handle this!  Thus began 
a progression similar to many on this list:  (all C&C's); 25; 29, 33 and 
currently, a 37:

Richard
s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 600:
Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
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Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:21 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?
Whether its a 30 or 27 or 26.  Have patience with looking.   Someone in the 
next town gave away a decent 30' to a deserving family who would use and love 
the boat as it  was by its original owner.  Its not always the money.

With that in mind look for the best whatever footage (me? go for the 30, you 
will be trading up within 5 years anyway) you can find with all the work done, 
sails purchased etc. and do not be afraid to have a budget that you will stick 
to and offer.  They can only say no.  But  they may say yes for non-economic 
(emotional) reasons.

Lots of boats out there and lots of eyes all over the country to help if its 
not local to you.

David F. Risch, J. D.
Gulf Stream Associates, LLC
(401) 419-4650<tel:(401)%20419-4650>

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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'?

Agreed with Bruce - none of the boats in this range are too big to be easily 
handled with a small crew.  IMO you are unlikely to wish you’d bought a 27 
after having bought a 30.

You described the condition of the 27 in some detail and it clearly needs a lot 
of work.  There are tons of tired boats out there, be patient.  There will be 
another one tomorrow....  be prepared to pay more for a very well maintained 
boat - someone else’s labour of love. (Money pit)

Other thing is to make a list of the ‘must have’ equipment and be disciplined 
about that too.

The cost of repair and outfitting a tired 27 will can quickly exceed its 
acquisition cost.

My $.02....

Dave

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On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Graham 
<sabre28...@yahoo.com<mailto:sabre28...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Thanks Bruce!

I’m going to be single handing 90% of the time, and storage, mooring costs, 
sail replacement, etc...is another reason why I’m trying to keep the length 
down.

I do understand the 30’ is a superior boat on many levels. I think I’m 
committed to a smaller size though I may be convinced otherwise if something 
were to present itself. :)

You nailed the price of both boats. The 26’ has cosmetic issues but can be 
dropped in the water tomorrow and sailed away. Just trying to look down the 
road and make the right choice.

Beautiful pacific seacraft 25’ at triple the coast but a beautiful bait with 
classic lines, double ender... but I want to keep costs down! :)

Chris


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On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 7:57 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I had a 1977 C&C 27 MK III for 15 years on Lake Michigan.  The nice thing about 
the MK III was that it had a taller rig than the one you'relooking at,  which 
made her a great light air performer, generally hitting hull speed of 6.4 in 
about 9 kts pf wind, and which would commonly sustain 7 knots.  I would be less 
optimistic about the MK II, and I sold mine for 8K in 2015, albeit to a friend 
in very good condition.  It was in very good shape but also did not have roller 
furling.  Given the work you're talking about, she ought to be $2,500 or even 
less.

Now having a bigger boat and the affordability of older boats, I too would 
recommend looking at a bigger one, or at least holding out for one in much 
better condition.

Just my $.02 worth,

Bruce Whitmore



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