I always pulled it down and towards me with the lazy guy

Wrong, it is impossible do that with the lazy guy.....on the 34R I always pulled it down and towards me with the downhaul which was close to me directly in front of the forestay as the downhaul was attached to the outer end of the pole.   On the 33 MKII, the pitman would release the topping lift and pull down on the downhaul which would swing the pole down and towards me.,,,,downhaul was in the middle of the pole.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


On 2018-06-08 6:13 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote:
Matt,
I worked foredeck racing for +30 years on boats of sizes from 24' to 40'....in my opinion, some boats the end for end is the way to go.....other boats the dip pole jybe is the way to go.....some people feel the dip jybe is too complicated, however, once you and your crew get the process choreographed, it is actually simpler, easier and safer than an end-for-end especially on a 36 footer that is mast head rigged.

One tip....make sure the helmsman does not over-steer too quickly through the jybe....so, if the pole is too far foreward before the guy is released/tripped we call it, , the jaw(s) are twisted on the guy and won't release easily before the actual jybe, bring the pole back 45 deg or more to make sure the trip of the pole goes smoothly....the jaw(s) won't be twisted on the guy, it will drop easily........have the pit man pull it down or the foredeck person do it. I always pulled it down and towards me with the lazy guy.......and I stayed in front of the forestay looking back......then have the helmsman steer until the chute is flying out directly in front of the boat......attached the lazy guy....tighten it up ...the jybe is made.....now the helmsman can come up into the wind.    The big mistake I have found doing a dip pole jybe is the helmsman steers through the jybe too quickly......the more you practice, the quicker and more precise you get, especially in a heavier wind.....as a foredeck person, I would much rather do a dip pole jybe in a heavier wind than end for end.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 -
Halifax, N.S.

On 2018-06-08 3:36 PM, Matt Knighton via CnC-List wrote:
Hey All,
Getting new running rigging on a recently purchased C&C 36.

What does the brain trust recommend for gybing: dip pole or end-to-end?

I.e. Can get away with only lite sheets or do we need guys as well?

Many thanks,

Matt

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