Dave, The 3:1 portion IIRC is 80ish feet. The part that runs along the boom and deck is always there so as a purchase system it doesn't add to the birds nest. The 50 extra feet ensure that I can let the boom out nearly perpendicular to the mast. My boom attachment is roughly at 10' so some trigonometry tells me the traveler to boom distance on the same plane is 14'. Add the boom height and multiply by 3 (for the 3:1)
As for the offset becket fiddle block. It is actual supposed to be a standard fiddle with cam cleat. I removed the cam cleat and installed a bolt and brass bushing in it's place. I'm told that Garhauer will make all types of custom stuff but this was an easy off the shelf option. No, none of the blocks are OEM or even from the PO. Everything is from Garhauer. I was on a kick for a little while. They make good stuff but I'm not dead set on it. The availability of comparably priced stuff at the West Marine around the corner is hard to beat. Here a link to the "offset becket fiddle block" https://www.garhauerstore.com/blocks/fiddle-blocks-71/fiddle-blocks-with-cam-cleat-and-shackle/fiddle-block-with-cam-cleat-and-shackle-30-05-uag.html Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 3:51 PM David Knecht via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Josh- How long does the mainsheet need to be for this setup with > coarse, fine and winch? Are all those stock blocks? I am not sure what > you would call the double fiddle with the offset becket. Dave > > On Jun 8, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > My boat came setup from the PO with a cabin top mainsheet control to a > cabin top winch. It was painfully under powered even with the winch. My > traveler is located in the cockpit on the aft edge of the forward bench. I > had previously, on other boats, only ever used a 4:1 mainsheet which was > trimmed at the traveler. A convenient setup for tacking with a limited > crew or singlehanded. > > The PO had tried a 6:1 or 8:1 trimmed at the traveler but justifiably > complained that there was too much extra line to be tripped on and tangled > in the cockpit or thrown below in the cabin. > > I had seen the stacked fiddle block setup that makes 3:1/6:1 or 4:1/8:1. > While innovative, I decided that the bulk of the line would still be under > foot in the cockpit 95% of the time. > > I ended up designing a cascading system which gives me a 12:1 "tweaker" > which is readily available in the cockpit and a 3:1 which runs to the cabin > top winch for the deep down wind runs. TBH the tweaker and the traveler > together usually give enough range for all but the deepest down wind runs. > Even though the 3:1 is terminated at a winch it is extremely rare that we > need to use it since the traveler and tweaker are available to make up for > that which the 3:1 cannot. > > Based in your picture it appears that my setup may be useful on your > boat. Basically you would eliminate either the port or starboard control > which you currently have. Install a 4:1 or 6:1 fiddle block between boom > and traveler, and have the free end now terminate with a cam cleat at the > traveler side. With no other purchase changes it looks like a 4:1 could be > arranged to produce 5:1 compounded with the existing 2:1 and you would have > 10:1. With the compromise of more line on the deck you could push it to > 12:1 or 14:1 with the application of a 6:1 instead. Here is a link to some > pictures of my setup. If you need more description or better pictures just > let me know. > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yY3Qtbi1VSllwM3M > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 10:07 AM Chuck Borge via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Josh, >> Thanks for jumping in. >> [image: image1.gif] >> For reference, it looks like this diagram. >> The traveler is on the bridge deck. The problem is the purchase. I might >> add a triple at the top and move the double to the bottom. That will give >> me 3:1 instead. But it doesn’t solve my wanting to trim the jib on the aft >> winches. >> Before I go buy a more traditional cascading set up like the Ronstan >> RP72900 4:1/8:1, I want to think it out. >> >> Best, >> Chuck >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 10:14 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Chuck, >> >> Any chance you have some pictures? I tried google and sailboatdata but >> can't tell if your boat has a cabin top traveler or a cockpit traveler? >> >> Just for clarity, are you having trouble trimming the traveler or the >> mainsheet? >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 9:54 PM Chuck Borge via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Listers, >>> >>> Anyone with a C&C 41 have suggestions on a mainsheet set-up? >>> My new-to-me boat has a "German" mainsheet set-up that runs to the >>> runner winches. It's supposed to be the hot set-up but I'm not impressed. >>> Since I'm using a 97% r/f jib, I find tacking that alone using the >>> runner winches to be pretty easy, but what to do with the main? Also the >>> 2:1 nature of the German set-up is not really that easy to trim, even with >>> the winches. >>> I'm thinking I'd like a 4:1/8:1 more traditional set-up or a reasonable >>> suggestion(?). >>> Thanks in advance for the help. >>> >>> *Chuck Borge* >>> *C&C 41 Tenacious* >>> *(formerly C&C 34 Elusive)* >>> *Somerset, MA* >>> *508-642-3557* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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