I got mine several years ago from the original mast manufacturer In Michigan. Offshore Spars perhaps? Perfect for for all the masthead sheaves.
Rich Hulit 917 854-5537 rhhu...@optonline.net Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos > On Jan 22, 2018, at 6:48 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ (Josh Muckley) > 2. Re: Keel bolt torque (Josh Muckley) > 3. Re: Keel bolt torque (Joel Aronson) > 4. Re: Keel bolt torque (Josh Muckley) > 5. Re: Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ (Ron Ricci) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:16:44 +0000 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRA+=sevm0zg4jbaxeu9xfszasg08emi9g5mkzkdsvp...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have a new problem for the collective wisdom. > > I'm getting the masthead sheaves re-made by Ed at Zephyrwerks. He made my > boom end sheaves 2 years ago and did a great job. I have a 1/2" wide > sheave box for 3 sheaves. He cut them with a slight relief and cut the > groove for a 1/2" line. I had told him that I simply didn't want to > needlessly limit my options in the future despite only using 5/16ths or > 3/8ths for the reefing lines. > > Now 2 years later I'm in a similar situation except the masthead sheave > boxes are 5/8ths wide. I can't exactly recall but I believe that I'm > running 3/8ths halyards. When I talked to Ed he advised that he would like > to cut the groove to match the line which is on the boat. 3/8ths. But also > stated that he could cut it however I desired. It seems unnecessarily > limiting of my options in the future to cut a 3/8ths groove. It is far > easier to run 3/8ths on a 1/2 inch groove than 1/2 inch on a 3/8ths groom. > The original sheaves were v-grooves and would accommodate anything from 1/4 > inch wire rope up to 1/2 or even 9/16ths line. And we haven't even talked > about the added thickness of a core to core eye splice. > > Anybody want to share their thoughts? > > > Thanks, > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > ??? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180122/a34731eb/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:27:05 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque > Message-ID: > <ca+zacrb9jngpvm6ewdfu852tegtsu9rlca3zrsevvd57ute...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I've been getting some good feedback on the torqing video I posted on > YouTube, so I told my wife. She stopped dead in her tracks and I had to > quickly clarify torque-ing not twerking! Haha ? > > On Jan 2, 2018 3:18 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > >> Ok Guys, >> Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access >> ALL of the keel bolts. I've measured each of the bolt and nut diameters >> and checked the archives for torque specs. I intend to buy a toque >> multiplier and the appropriate sized sockets. I think I can do it for less >> than the yard is going to charge and I'll come out of it with some tools. >> I'll also be able to tell myself that it was done correctly. >> >> That being said it sounds like the best practices are are follows: >> - be on the hard >> - loosen the bolts one at a time, clean, and lubricate with tef-gel >> - reinstall and torque at progressively higher levels. >> >> I was unable to find the torque spec for my 1.5" bolt in the website but >> Ken Heaton cited 600lbs in one of his past responses. >> >> Keel bolts (fwd to aft): >> Nut stud torque >> 1 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >> 2 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >> 3 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >> 4 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >> 5 - 1 7/8 (47.5mm)1 1/4 (32mm) 450 >> 6 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >> 7 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >> 8 - 3/4 (19.5mm) 1/2 (13mm) 80 >> >> >> *Anything I'm missing?* >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180122/5216fe66/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 15:31:18 -0500 > From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque > Message-ID: > <cael16p98o57tftnrtgfuds5dudsiprdnuxpsv12738cqtj-...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Just don't tell her about greasing the winch! > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I've been getting some good feedback on the torqing video I posted on >> YouTube, so I told my wife. She stopped dead in her tracks and I had to >> quickly clarify torque-ing not twerking! Haha ? >> >> On Jan 2, 2018 3:18 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ok Guys, >>> Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access >>> ALL of the keel bolts. I've measured each of the bolt and nut diameters >>> and checked the archives for torque specs. I intend to buy a toque >>> multiplier and the appropriate sized sockets. I think I can do it for less >>> than the yard is going to charge and I'll come out of it with some tools. >>> I'll also be able to tell myself that it was done correctly. >>> >>> That being said it sounds like the best practices are are follows: >>> - be on the hard >>> - loosen the bolts one at a time, clean, and lubricate with tef-gel >>> - reinstall and torque at progressively higher levels. >>> >>> I was unable to find the torque spec for my 1.5" bolt in the website but >>> Ken Heaton cited 600lbs in one of his past responses. >>> >>> Keel bolts (fwd to aft): >>> Nut stud torque >>> 1 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >>> 2 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>> 3 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>> 4 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>> 5 - 1 7/8 (47.5mm)1 1/4 (32mm) 450 >>> 6 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>> 7 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >>> 8 - 3/4 (19.5mm) 1/2 (13mm) 80 >>> >>> >>> *Anything I'm missing?* >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Josh Muckley >>> S/V Sea Hawk >>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>> Solomons, MD >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180122/8b5bf530/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:33:26 +0000 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque > Message-ID: > <ca+zacrdqcrooejqj6omuqnoled2nampuy19l-6fk95oilqs...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'll just surprise her with that one! > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018, 3:32 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Just don't tell her about greasing the winch! >> >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> <#m_-4801032029343178805_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 3:27 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I've been getting some good feedback on the torqing video I posted on >>> YouTube, so I told my wife. She stopped dead in her tracks and I had to >>> quickly clarify torque-ing not twerking! Haha ? >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2018 3:18 PM, "Josh Muckley via CnC-List" < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ok Guys, >>>> Since I have the mast out, this provides the rare opportunity to access >>>> ALL of the keel bolts. I've measured each of the bolt and nut diameters >>>> and checked the archives for torque specs. I intend to buy a toque >>>> multiplier and the appropriate sized sockets. I think I can do it for less >>>> than the yard is going to charge and I'll come out of it with some tools. >>>> I'll also be able to tell myself that it was done correctly. >>>> >>>> That being said it sounds like the best practices are are follows: >>>> - be on the hard >>>> - loosen the bolts one at a time, clean, and lubricate with tef-gel >>>> - reinstall and torque at progressively higher levels. >>>> >>>> I was unable to find the torque spec for my 1.5" bolt in the website but >>>> Ken Heaton cited 600lbs in one of his past responses. >>>> >>>> Keel bolts (fwd to aft): >>>> Nut stud torque >>>> 1 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >>>> 2 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>>> 3 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>>> 4 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>>> 5 - 1 7/8 (47.5mm)1 1/4 (32mm) 450 >>>> 6 - 2 3/16 (56mm) 1 1/2 (38mm) 600? >>>> 7 - 1 1/2 (38mm) 1 (25mm) 350 >>>> 8 - 3/4 (19.5mm) 1/2 (13mm) 80 >>>> >>>> >>>> *Anything I'm missing?* >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Josh Muckley >>>> S/V Sea Hawk >>>> 1989 C&C 37+ >>>> Solomons, MD >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Joel >> 301 541 8551 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180122/26757686/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:47:28 -0500 > From: Ron Ricci <ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ > Message-ID: <008401d393e3$bfe6f580$3fb4e080$@1968.USNA.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Josh, > > > > My sheaves seemed to be original as I could not find anything from the FO > indicating they had ever been replaced. Patriot?s mast was out last winter > and my rigger said her sheaves were fine. They did not have a groove for > wire rope. > > > > I think my halyards are 7/16 with a 1/2? groove. Each winter, I pull 3/8? > messenger lines in place of the halyards. The extra space makes it easy to > connect the messenger to the reeving eye on the halyard. I?d suggest keeping > the 1/2" groove. > > > > Just my thoughts, > > Ron > > Ron Ricci > > S/V Patriot > > C&C 37+ > > Bristol, RI > > (978) 877-0369 > > <mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:17 PM > To: C&C List > Cc: Josh Muckley > Subject: Stus-List Masthead sheaves C&C 37+ > > > > I have a new problem for the collective wisdom. > > > > I'm getting the masthead sheaves re-made by Ed at Zephyrwerks. He made my > boom end sheaves 2 years ago and did a great job. I have a 1/2" wide sheave > box for 3 sheaves. He cut them with a slight relief and cut the groove for a > 1/2" line. I had told him that I simply didn't want to needlessly limit my > options in the future despite only using 5/16ths or 3/8ths for the reefing > lines. > > > > Now 2 years later I'm in a similar situation except the masthead sheave boxes > are 5/8ths wide. I can't exactly recall but I believe that I'm running > 3/8ths halyards. When I talked to Ed he advised that he would like to cut > the groove to match the line which is on the boat. 3/8ths. But also stated > that he could cut it however I desired. It seems unnecessarily limiting of my > options in the future to cut a 3/8ths groove. It is far easier to run 3/8ths > on a 1/2 inch groove than 1/2 inch on a 3/8ths groom. The original sheaves > were v-grooves and would accommodate anything from 1/4 inch wire rope up to > 1/2 or even 9/16ths line. And we haven't even talked about the added > thickness of a core to core eye splice. > > > Anybody want to share their thoughts? > > > Thanks, > > > Josh Muckley > > S/V Sea Hawk > > 1989 C&C 37+ > > Solomons, MD > > > > > > ??? > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180122/cd0cbc51/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 144, Issue 71 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. 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