Rod, Mine extends 3 ft past the headstay. More than that and i would have more than 3sec penalty, and i can say that it is plenty. If I remember right, maybe it was also max length recommended by selden unsupported, from where the bow ring bracket could be installed on deck. I have the selden 87 mm with no bobstay. It is stiff but you can definitely see it bend upward with the tension needed so the the furler torque rope works properly. I avoid reaching, the asym I have is not cut for this anyways.
Another drawback of this system is that it requires a special setup to be able to ease the tack point. I sometime ease the haylard if the wind is soft and that I want to run deeper angles. Bruno. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> _____________________________ From: Rod Stright <strig...@eastlink.ca<mailto:strig...@eastlink.ca>> Sent: samedi, novembre 25, 2017 5:54 AM Subject: RE: Stus-List asymmetrical furling To: <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com<mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com>> How far does the sprit extend past the headstay? I have a 4’ section of carbon fibre (1.75” OD) I am thinking about fitting I would need something like the seldom chocks you have an likely a bobstay. From: CnC-List [ CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Bruno Lachance via CnC-List Sent: November-24-17 10:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bruno Lachance <bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com<mailto:bruno_lacha...@hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List asymmetrical furling Hi Bill, I am with Mike on this one. I have a 3 ft selden bowsprit on my 33 mkII and a Facnor asym furler from 2014 that is used with a 92 square meters running asym. We were aware from the beginning this was a compromise, but it allows us to use a big asym short handed and I like it! I have experience the same issues described by Mike. It is easy to use when cruising short handed and when you can take the time to have a good even furl with no backspin on the torque rope. But for short races, it is slow to furl and also easy to make mistakes and then you are in trouble. I would probably choose a good sock over a furler if I had to do it again. It is cheaper, faster and I don't think that you will have more problems with a sock if handled properly. My rigger says the newer generation of torque rope is better and less prone to what I call twist and backspin which leads to what Mike explains with some parts of the sail furling and other unfurling... but the torque rope is expensive so I have learn to deal with it. We are very careful when fueling, especially is the sail is very loaded. The sprit is very nice though, 3 sec penalty on my rating. Maybe the new generation is better. The profurl spinex with the plastic balls may be faster. Does anybody has experience with other brands? Bruno Lachance Bécassine, 33 mkII New Richmond, Qc. Envoyé de mon iPad Le 24 nov. 2017 à 13:36, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit : Hi Bill I sailed on a boat with a furling asymmetrical spinnaker. This system was new in 2011. We had some issues when unfurling. If it was not furled exactly right then somehow one section would be furling while another unfurling. We did sort that out and the next year this was the sail used in cruising class Newport to Bermuda. The kinks were worked out and we had no issues. One thing with that system is that it took a LONG time to furl in the sail. This may make it impractical for races with short legs. Mike From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of William Walker via CnC-List Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 12:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: wwadjo...@aol.com<mailto:wwadjo...@aol.com> Subject: Stus-List asymmetrical furling I would be interested in hearing others with experience with top down furlers for asym sail. I frequently race and sail shorthanded and would love to fly my asym on occasion. I have no problem, even single handed when day sailing, but when racing shorthanded transition at a mark rounding between asym and headsail is tough. I am particularly interested in manner of attachment out front of furling genny but without addition of sprit and how that may be accomplished. To have no impact on my phrf, tack must attach no more than 12 inches in front of furler. The bow casting seems substantial but I am uncertain if drilling through and attaching shackle is wise. Thanks in advance. Bill Walker CnC 36 Pentwater Mi Lake MICHIGAN Sent from AOL Mobile Mail _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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