Well said, I agree Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:10 AM, robert via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > My 1984 C&C 32 has a very robust mast.....as was stated "more like an > aluminum telephone pole", nevertheless Rob Ball decided to outfit the rig > with a baby stay and for that reason, it stays on the boat. It is a PITA > when tacking but you get to know your boat and learn how to make efficient > tacks by back winding the genoa to avoid the sail catching on the baby stay. > > I am confident that the boat would perform fine without the baby stay on most > day sails but since it is there, it will be attached and tensioned. Maybe on > these rigs, the baby stay helps to induce 'rake' on these otherwise 'aluminum > telephone poles'. > > There was another C&C 32 84 at our club whose owner took the baby stay off > completely and he didn't appear to have any issues with his rig. > > If I had one of the C&C models with the bendy masts, 3 spreaders, etc. I > would definitely keep the baby stay tensioned. We raced a 34R for several > years and I can assure you that boat benefited from a tensioned baby stay. > > So for me, if the boat designer thought a baby stay was needed, then I will > use it. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > >> On 2017-10-25 10:21 PM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote: >> I find the baby stay question an interesting one. We've got the adjustable >> babystay, but don't race, so usually it gets tensioned at the beginning of >> the season and then at some random time during the summer someone kicks the >> clutch, and eventually I discover that it isn't tensioned. >> Would it be worth a survey? I'm curious how many owners actually have and >> actively use the baby stay. >> Graham Collins >> Secret Plans >> C&C 35-III #11 >>> On 2017-10-25 10:00 PM, Charles Nelson via CnC-List wrote: >>> Before investing lots of time, effort and money in reattaching your baby >>> stay to whatever, give some thought to a larger question----is it necessary >>> on your boat? While I am not a naval architect and have not recently stayed >>> in a Holiday Inn Express :>), unless your mast is 'bendy' and absolutely >>> requires it you might be able to "...forgetaboutit ...", particularly if >>> your spreaders are not swept aft. Many masts of your boat vintage were more >>> like aluminum telephone poles which would never bend fore and aft, baby >>> stay notwithstanding. My 1995 36 XL came with a baby stay and a relatively >>> bendy mast. The spreaders are not swept at all. Given that I have NO plans >>> to ever take her seriously off-shore and I sail/race in the protected >>> waters of the NC sounds and the PITA the baby stay is in tacking upwind and >>> removing it for flying the kite, my sailmaker recommend it's removal, which >>> I did and have never looked back. Now if I planned to go offshore, I would >>> put it back on board for the SOLE reason of preventing mast pumping fore >>> and aft--that is one gravity storm I prefer to miss! >>> Of course your use and the design of your boat might make its use mandatory >>> but in my case, I am pretty sure it was added solely to stabilize mast >>> pumping fore and aft. I avoid such pumping by sailing for pleasure in >>> protected waters and have never missed it (but the attachment below and >>> rod as well as the rolled up stay are kept on board anyway! >>> >>> FWIW >>> >>> Charlie Nelson >>> 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb >>> Water Phantom >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 8:14 PM, Kevin Paxton via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My baby stay comes down to a pad eye on the top of the cabin and is then >>>> attached to a piece of rod rigging just in front of the head in the >>>> v-berth area. I don't have a track on mine. >>>> >>>> If there is any stainless bracket or welding, I can't see it. There is a >>>> lot of fiberglass covering it all. I can't even tell by the hole that's >>>> left if there really is a wood stringer in there. Im not sure how much >>>> glass I would need to cut away to get to where any bracket or plate may be. >>>> >>>> I suppose I could cut some of it away and have a new plate and stud welded >>>> together. Then lag bolt it to the stringer and cover with glass? >>>> >>>> Makes me a little nervous though to go cutting away like that while it's >>>> in the water. But I want to make sure it is strong enough whatever I do. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017, 6:42 PM Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List >>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>> Have you thought of using a padeye screwed to stringer, friction ring, >>>>> and dyneema? Would be a lot cheaper (and lighter) and you could DIY it. >>>>> Would serve same function just as well. Don't have time to get into it, >>>>> but look around at what is possible since probably would be done this way >>>>> today on a new boat. Cheaper, easier, better imo. >>>>> >>>>> (my babystay attachment also runs parallel to bulkhead, perp to water >>>>> line in v berth. >>>>> >>>>> 2 cents >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:23 PM Dave Godwin via CnC-List >>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>>> Chuck, et al, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t know if it is the same on your model but be careful about >>>>>> assuming that the track tie-down follows the angle of the baby-stay. At >>>>>> least that is my take-away from your description of it being “far in >>>>>> front of the keel” means. >>>>>> >>>>>> With the 37’, on the aft end of the baby-stay track there is a plate >>>>>> that the top of the tie-down (Navtec rod rigging…) is attached to. The >>>>>> rod descends directly down parallel to the interior bulkheads >>>>>> (perpendicular to the waterline) to the stud that was glassed into the >>>>>> central stringer. The load is not carried forward but rather resides at >>>>>> the rear of the traveler track. >>>>>> >>>>>> Years ago I delivered a 34’ from Ft. Lauderdale to Kingston, Jamaica. As >>>>>> I recall, it had the same setup that the 37’ does. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I’ll reiterate, the bolt does not go through the hull. Repairs to >>>>>> this can be easily be made while the boat is in the water. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Dave Godwin >>>>>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >>>>>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >>>>>> Ronin’s Overdue Refit >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:07 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List >>>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Fred, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked the drawings for the 34 and see the baby stay is far in front >>>>>>> of the keel. I suspect the bolt should be attached to a stringer also. >>>>>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1794 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's how it is on my 34R. On my boat they welded a stainless stud to >>>>>>> a stainless bracket that is thru bolted to a stringer. A short piece >>>>>>> of rod carries the load from the track down to the hull stringer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest you pull up the floor around the hole and look in there? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>> Resolute >>>>>>> 1990 C&C 34R >>>>>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, M >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>>>>>> again. October will be our fund raising month. Please consider >>>>>>> sending a small contribution to help keep this list running. Use >>>>>>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> The bills have started coming in for the year 2018 and have gone up >>>>>> again. 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