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www.cncrdv.org Tom B Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:12 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Electrical panel (ahycrace) > 2. Re: Can't close the v-berth door (syerd...@gmail.com) > 3. Re: Electrical panel (Frederick G Street) > 4. Re: Can't close the v-berth door (Dave Godwin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:02:04 -0400 > From: ahycrace <ahycr...@cox.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel > Message-ID: > <20170810220215.ywqv30763.fed1rmfepo203.cox....@fed1rmimpo305.cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Chuck still going to newport next week for the J class races?Gary Kolc > ?"Liberty" > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > -------- Original message --------From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 8/10/17 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00) To: > cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net> Subject: > Re: Stus-List Electrical panel > Half Magic sports a working Raytheon 1200 CRT radar at the nav station. > ?Takes a while to warm up and it really draws some serious amperage. ?As such > I only tend to use it when motoring at night or in fog. ?But it isn't awful > once you learn to interpret what's out there. ?I even got the owners manual > and schematic diagram showing all the resistors and stuff..Chuck GilchrestS/V > Half Magic1983 35 Landfall?Padanaram, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 10, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > <!-- > /* Font Definitions */ > @font-face > {font-family:Helvetica; > panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} > @font-face > {font-family:"Cambria Math"; > panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} > @font-face > {font-family:Calibri; > panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {margin:0in; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {mso-style-priority:99; > color:blue; > text-decoration:underline;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {mso-style-priority:99; > color:purple; > text-decoration:underline;} > span.apple-style-span > {mso-style-name:apple-style-span;} > span.EmailStyle18 > {mso-style-type:personal-reply; > font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; > color:#1F497D;} > .MsoChpDefault > {mso-style-type:export-only; > font-size:10.0pt;} > @page WordSection1 > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} > div.WordSection1 > {page:WordSection1;} > -->That looks like a Furuno CRT unit. They are actually quite nice radars. > ??Joe Della Barbajoe@dellabarba.comFrom: CnC-List > [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via > CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:41 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel?Josh ? is that REALLY?a CRT radar > display? ?I haven?t seen one of those in years (except for the one somebody > posted about a few weeks back, found in a river)? ? :^)?? Fred > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V?Oceanis?(1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI?On Aug 10, 2017, at 1:31 > PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:?https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yVzdkVFMyVGhqRjA/view?usp=drivesdk?Josh > Muckley?S/V Sea Hawk1989 C&C 37+Solomons, > MD?_______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish > to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: > ?https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/f6611a69/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:04:45 -0400 > From: syerd...@gmail.com > To: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> > Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door > Message-ID: <c4501565-ce05-4aa3-ae33-5fe33bdc1...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My 33-2 does that if I crank things too tight. (mast step has been > rebuilt), and I do not have a hydraulic backstay. It binds at the top of the > doorframe. > > There are there are j hooks that are bolted through the mast that grab the > cast mast partners/ collar to which the halyard turning blocks are mounted. > I believe these hooks are there keep the mast collar from being lifted by > pull of the halyards. There are shims between the base of the mast and the > step that can slightly vary height of the mast and therefore the distance > between the hooks and the step. Soooo, without those shims, the mast is > inclined to press the cabin top down, and therefore the top of the head door > frame. If shimmed correctly, the hooks don't pull the cabin down, but they > keep the deck from lifting via halyard pressure etc.. > If you have a similar arrangement, this could be impacting things. > > Dave. 33-2 > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Interesting. I inspected my mast step closely when the mast was out, since I >> know some LF38s have had that issue. Mine looked okay. Dennis when your head >> door was stuck, was it binding at the top and bottom edges of the door? >> Given your cabin roof was being pushed down I imagine that's what would >> happen. My v-berth door is binding at the sides - the bottom 3 feet - so >> that makes me think it's due to horizontal squeezing of the hull. >> >> I know some flex / compression is natural from the forces of the rig on all >> sailboats, more so on more flexy boats than on older solid fiberglass boats. >> The LF38 has no deck tie downs at the fwd bulkhead, just the aft bulkhead. >> So I'm wondering whether that lack of deck tie downs allows the hull to flex >> more at that fwd section. >> >> -Patrick >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> >>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> Cc: >>> Bcc: >>> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 14:08:47 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door >>> Years ago, I installed a hydraulic backstay adjuster on Touche'. Hot dog! >>> Picked the boat up from the yard and went out on the lake to try it out. >>> Cranked it down and, oops, the head door wouldn't open. Temporary boat >>> rule: nobody uses the head going upwind. Downwind, backstay off, door >>> opened fine. >>> >>> Didn't take long to discover deteriorated mast step. Tightened the rig, >>> the mast was driven downward into the boat. The turning blocks on the mast >>> pushed the collar down, deformed the cabin roof and bound up the head door. >>> >>> Rebuilt mast step solved issue. >>> >>> Your experience may be different. >>> >>> Dennis C. >>> Touche' 35-1 #83 >>> Mandeville, LA >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List >>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>> I've had this (minor) issue over a year where we can't fully close the >>>> v-berth door on our Landfall 38. >>>> >>>> At first I thought it was just due to heat expansion of the wood in the >>>> summer, but it started roughly after I tightened the main shrouds a couple >>>> turns (due to masthead fall off in higher winds). And this winter when I >>>> had the mast out for rerig I noticed the v-berth door closed fine. >>>> >>>> Is this just normal flex for C&C's? Anyone else had this issue? >>>> >>>> It's binding at the door jamb and the lower right half of the door. I >>>> tried to check the bulkhead to hull and deck joints, but it's hard to >>>> inspect those much since they're covered by a permanent liner. >>>> >>>> Releasing backstay tension doesn't help. So I suspect it's the fwd lowers >>>> or main shrouds that flex the hull the tiny amount needed to squeeze the >>>> door frame. I double checked that the tie rods are adequately tensioned >>>> and there's no upward inflexion of the deck at the U-bolts. >>>> >>>> The only thing I can think to do would be to sand down the lower half of >>>> the door edge and revarnish it. >>>> >>>> -Patrick >>>> 1984 C&C Landfall 38 >>>> Seattle, WA >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you >>>> wish to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >>>> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CnC-List mailing list >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >>> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/120ff40a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 17:11:05 -0500 > From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Electrical panel > Message-ID: <d9ed74be-b782-4f92-93e1-f2a69f7bc...@postaudio.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Josh ? all of the solid-state radar scanners and displays are MUCH more > energy efficient than their predecessors. The choice of scanner mostly comes > down to whether it?s going to attach to an MFD, or be a black-box unit. If?s > it?s going to an MFD, you need to stick with the same manufacturer > (obviously?). > > Furuno, Garmin, Navico (Simrad/Lowrance/B&G) and Koden all make black-box > scanners. You just need to determine which one will be supported by the app > you?re going to use. It looks like OpenCPN supports at least the Garmin and > Navico. I?ve heard really good things about the Novice BR24, so that might > be an option to consider along with the Garmin scanners. > > Just know that if your laptop fails (not unheard of in salt air?), your radar > is just a big boat anchor attached partway up the mast. The purpose-built > MFDs are much more robust in the marine environment, IMHO. > > ? Fred > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > >> On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Yep CRT, for the radar, and it works...if I actually knew how to use it. I >> turn it on from time to time and try to make out contacts but with most of >> the inland sailing I do it is rather useless. I've seen the newer digital >> radars seem to work well with storm cells and overlay on the >> chartplotter...seems much more useful. Oddly enough I literally just spoke >> to the local yard about having mast and rig work done this winter and >> discussed replacing the radar. >> >> Since you took interest, I'll entertain your thoughts on replacements. With >> the speed at which technology advances I hate spending money on planned >> obsolescence items and lean towards OpenSource or at least opensource >> compatible solutions. IIRC OpenCPN has a module for the GARMIN HD radar >> systems. >> >> Another reason I don't use the radar regularly is that is is an energy hog. >> ~10amps!! It is also down below and doesn't talk to the chartplotter...at >> all. It only has NMEA 0183 provisions for course input, time input, sailing >> instrument input, magnetic bearing input, no outputs. >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170810/21c48d8d/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:12:03 -0400 > From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Can't close the v-berth door > Message-ID: <c3cf0ba0-f1f1-4817-8431-9cd97cc5c...@me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I?m thinking that this might be a common issue along the C&C line, at least > from our vintage years. About a year after I acquired our boat and getting > the rig rebuilt (I bought it with the mast on the deck as an abandoned > bank-repo) and the boat in the water the v-berth door stopped closing. Worked > with a friend who owned a boat-yard and built boats and we couldn?t really > find a ?good? reason for this happening. > > I just ignored it and kept the v-berth door pinned open. It will be > interesting to see it that still is the case when I finally put the new rig > (all new rod and running rigging) back in after sitting on jack stands with > no keel for a couple of years... > > Best, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >> On Aug 10, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> I have the opposite issue with the v-berth door on my Landfall 38; with the >> boat in the water and the rig under tension, it?s fine, but when the boat?s >> in the cradle for the winter it won?t close? Kind of a non-issue, I guess? >> :^) >> >> ? Fred >> >> Fred Street -- Minneapolis >> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI >> >>> On Aug 10, 2017, at 4:33 PM, john sandford via CnC-List >>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I have the same problem when the shrouds are tensioned to 17ish% >>> I recessed the hinges into the frame, which moved the door <>3/16 to Stbd >>> and allows closing. >>> Same problem with the aft cabin door. >>> If I slack the rig enough to close the doors, its scary sailing with the >>> leeward stuff just flopping around. So I dont >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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