Thanks for the reminder Edd. We got one over here on the left coast too. Just no movies...yet!
www.cncrdv.org Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On Jun 21, 2017, at 5:36 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Reminder -- C&C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- Sept. 8-10, > 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island (Edd Schillay) > 2. Re: Reminder -- C&C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- Sept. 8-10, > 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island (JP Mail) > 3. Re: Looking for used RF Headsail of 34 (John and Maryann Read) > 4. Re: C&c 40 bolts (PETER OCAMPO) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:50:37 -0400 > From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> > To: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Reminder -- C&C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- Sept. > 8-10, 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island > Message-ID: <d88810cc-e110-40ae-8220-63cdb1cee...@schillay.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Listers, > > With summer officially beginning this evening, and on behalf of Rob Gallagher > (C&C 30 Mk II; Hanuman), David Risch (C&C 40; Corsair) and Don Sweeney (C&C > 36; Harbor Lights), I would like to invite you to attend our 2017 C&C > Northeast Rendezvous; September 8-10, 2017 in Greenport > <http://cncnortheast.com/>. > > Some of the highlights include pot luck group dinners, informal tours of > C&Cs, exploring Greenport, cigars, cocktails and more cocktails. Did I > mention drinks? > > We have dock space reserved at Mitchell Park Marina, located within a > four-acre park at the center of Greenport Village. A few steps away are > boutiques, shops, grocery stores, pubs, ice cream parlors, coffee bars, and > several highly-rated restaurants. You can even ferry (or dinghy) across the > river to beautiful Shelter Island ? something for everyone! > > There are already six C&C?s scheduled to attend with three months to go ? and > there?s plenty of room for more to join in on what?s shaping up to be our > best Northeast Rendezvous yet! > > And, seriously, when was the last time you had a rendezvous with its own > ?Movie Trailer?? (Go full screen and crank the volume ? trust me) ? > https://youtu.be/M8yBSXuHPaQ <https://youtu.be/M8yBSXuHPaQ> > > Website with Online Registration: cncnortheast.com <http://cncnortheast.com/> > (please sign up there to take advantage of our group rate and all the freebie > goodies from our sponsors.) > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170620/61ee06fc/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:15:14 -0400 > From: JP Mail <jon.peterpr...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Reminder -- C&C 2017 Northeast Rendezvous -- > Sept. 8-10, 2017 -- Greenport, Long Island > Message-ID: <9232106d-6dc8-4a49-8897-5eef0d21e...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm booked! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 20, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Listers, >> >> With summer officially beginning this evening, and on behalf of Rob >> Gallagher (C&C 30 Mk II; Hanuman), David Risch (C&C 40; Corsair) and Don >> Sweeney (C&C 36; Harbor Lights), I would like to invite you to attend our >> 2017 C&C Northeast Rendezvous; September 8-10, 2017 in Greenport. >> >> Some of the highlights include pot luck group dinners, informal tours of >> C&Cs, exploring Greenport, cigars, cocktails and more cocktails. Did I >> mention drinks? >> >> We have dock space reserved at Mitchell Park Marina, located within a >> four-acre park at the center of Greenport Village. A few steps away are >> boutiques, shops, grocery stores, pubs, ice cream parlors, coffee bars, and >> several highly-rated restaurants. You can even ferry (or dinghy) across the >> river to beautiful Shelter Island ? something for everyone! >> >> There are already six C&C?s scheduled to attend with three months to go ? >> and there?s plenty of room for more to join in on what?s shaping up to be >> our best Northeast Rendezvous yet! >> >> And, seriously, when was the last time you had a rendezvous with its own >> ?Movie Trailer?? (Go full screen and crank the volume ? trust me) ? >> https://youtu.be/M8yBSXuHPaQ >> >> Website with Online Registration: cncnortheast.com (please sign up there to >> take advantage of our group rate and all the freebie goodies from our >> sponsors.) >> >> All the best, >> >> Edd >> >> >> Edd M. Schillay >> Starship Enterprise >> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B >> City Island, NY >> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish >> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170620/df5fd9fb/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:39:53 -0400 > From: "John and Maryann Read" <johnpr...@comcast.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for used RF Headsail of 34 > Message-ID: <006401d2ea05$5fbbb980$1f332c80$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I would think a headsail for a 40 is much much larger than for a 34 so would > not fit > > > > John and Maryann > > Legacy III > > 1982 C&C 34 > > Noank, CT > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of George > Cone via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:11 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: George Cone > Subject: Re: Stus-List Looking for used RF Headsail of 34 > > > > I have an old #2 that was cut to work as a roller furling genny on your boat > ? C&C 40, it is in fair ? to good shape, you probably have it at no cost to > get you through this year and maybe more. It is for my 40. > > > > Thanks, > > George Cone > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of SEAN > CONNER via CnC-List > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 6:39 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: SEAN CONNER <conner.s...@comcast.net> > Subject: Stus-List Looking for used RF Headsail of 34 > > > > Had a beautiful day sailing off the coast of NH the other day in 15kts, but > unfortunately we blew out our aging genoa. Wondering if any 34 owners have > a good-very good Roller Furling genoa that you might be looking to sell. > I'm looking for something between 130-155%. I'm willing to pay up to $750 > and have a couple of spinnakers (.6 and .75) that I might be willing to > trade. Thanks for the consideration. > > Sean Conner > > C&C 34 #134, LADYHAWKE > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20170620/1b975ce3/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:35:44 -0400 > From: PETER OCAMPO <bcwwka...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&c 40 bolts > Message-ID: <64fcd52b-4aca-4b05-8ac0-999917aab...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Ron > > Emailed accounts payable for clarification still no word yet. But in my case > no cleaning no new 5200 just torque. > > Got another bill 3 hours to put in two thru hulls also I cleaned area. All I > needed them to do was put them in > > Leaked they had to do it again this time I was there and with the A-team. > I.e. Forman and assistant it took then 3 hours to take out what the b team > did then 30 min to put it in and set it now no leak > > Will e mail again but they have not responded in 2 weeks this far > > Thanks for info > > Peter > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 12, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> EDIT ? Turned out there was a reason his crew made themselves scarce ? If >> they had checked the batteries to know they were bad, they knew about the >> leaks! Hmm- good time to find something else to do???. >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny >> Haughey via CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:29 PM >> To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&c 40 bolts >> >> Hi Joe, >> >> Yea but, the right thing to do is, when you realize the condition is far >> more difficult to address, is call the owner and keep them in the loop. If >> the boat is sitting in the yard and accessible, there is no reason not to go >> assess the condition. I mean, I'd never have given an estimate on a >> plumbing job without having gone to look. Then if something gets uncovered >> during the project you let the owner know what you've found immediatly and >> make them a part of the decision making. >> >> If you had gone and looked at the guys battery compartment ahead of time, >> would you have been able to see that there would be extra work? >> >> Like I said those guys at my last Marina did exactly that. i ask if if they >> would quote something, I'd get a response that he would go look at it and he >> would give a quick rundown of his observation and work up a number with, >> maybe, some note about something he thought might give some trouble. Oh and >> he torqued my keel bolts on the Viking no charge! LOL >> >> I'd still be there but, they said they weren't comfortable pulling the stick >> with the furling boom track on the back of the mast... >> >> Danny >> >> >> On 6/12/2017 11:35 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: >> The first time I needed to tighten my keelbolts, Port Annapolis gave me a >> big socket wrench and said have at it - $0.00 J 5 hours seems 4 too high >> just to tighten a few bolts! >> That said, and having once been in the business, estimating jobs on boats is >> incredibly hard to do. Imagine all the times the ?5 minute job? involved >> snapping corroded bolts, wire that crumbles in your hand, etc. etc.. We once >> had a job to swap batteries out on a motoryacht. How hard could that be? Old >> ones out, new ones in, call it an hour or two if I have to drive. It turned >> out to be 6 hours times two people for a 12 hour bill. The old batteries had >> all cracked, there was acid everywhere, and the batteries were located >> outboard of the engines with fingertip access for 8D batteries. The owner >> was irate until I offered to put the old batteries and acid back in place. I >> told him if he could recruit a friend and change the batteries out faster >> than we did I would give him the new batteries for FREE and no labor either. >> I think showing him the acid burns on my arms helped ? he paid the bill >> right then LOL >> >> Joe >> Coquina >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny >> Haughey via CnC-List >> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 11:23 AM >> To: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&c 40 bolts >> >> well, >> >> I guess if you add in the time the guy took to listen to the request, then, >> the time it took to find the guy to do the job and tell him about it, and >> then the time it took to go get the tools and go to the boat and climb on >> board, take a nap, then tighten the bolts and fill out the time slip, I >> guess it could go 5 hours... >> >> The yard I'm at now seems unwilling to give prices for projects. They just >> want your work at time and material. so, there is no risk on their part and >> no pressure on their guys to work efficiently. I consider this a DIY yard >> now. You know, if they didn't charge the full rate for everyone the pricing >> might be a bit more fair but, they want full rate on anything they do. I >> mean, obviously, they don't need the work or, they would be better at >> pricing. I know in construction, when the pricing does not make any sense, >> the contractor doesn't really want your work but, will take it if the reward >> is high enough. >> >> I asked for a price recently on touching up bottom paint and all I got was, >> "yes, we do that for you..." No price, no estimate, no thanks! >> >> Here is the amazing thing to me. boats are a true luxury, no one NEEDS a >> boat. Most of us have limited budgets to spend on them and (at least me >> Lately!) wonder if it is even worth it, financially, to own a boat. Given >> the the short season around here, the monthly cost is pretty high. Then, >> you have these boat service places that just want to pry as much from your >> hands as possible. >> >> I have to say, I really miss FL Tipps in westport, ma. We had some issues >> but, they did run things like a real service company. Accurate quotes that >> they stood by. Discounts for scheduling early for winter work. Fair >> pricing on time and material work. No labor padding. When you store there, >> they don't charge for moving your boat, they don;t charge for moving your >> mast so you can work on it. I've actually gotten labor bills for 1 hour or >> part of an hour. >> >> Where I am now, they charge you for even thinking about your boat it seems! >> >> Danny >> >> >> On 6/12/2017 9:33 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote: >> Did that include pulling the mast to get at the one under the step? >> If not, 5 hours is about 4 hours too long for that job! Just went through it >> myself last year. They might want two guys to do it, so I would compromise >> with them and say you'll pay for two hours. Otherwise I would be shouting >> from the rooftops and raising holy hell with them. Five hours to tighten 5 >> nuts?! Tell them you'll ensure they get lots of publicity for their >> expertise in fleecing their customers. Then get the heck out of that place! >> >> Andy >> C&C 40 >> Peregrine >> >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:41 AM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> Before I speak to the yard. About charging me 5 hours to torque my 5 bolts >> 3 large at 450ft/lbs that I fully exposed i.e. Moved wires removed cabin >> table and covers cleared water from bildge >> >> just wondering what the avg time charged or if it takes multiple guys to do >> this job >> >> Peter >> Goonie island C&c 40 1983 aft cabin >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish >> to make a contribution to offset our costs, please go to: >> https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> All Contributions are greatly appreciated! >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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