Hi Ron Emailed accounts payable for clarification still no word yet. But in my case no cleaning no new 5200 just torque.
Got another bill 3 hours to put in two thru hulls also I cleaned area. All I needed them to do was put them in Leaked they had to do it again this time I was there and with the A-team. I.e. Forman and assistant it took then 3 hours to take out what the b team did then 30 min to put it in and set it now no leak Will e mail again but they have not responded in 2 weeks this far Thanks for info Peter Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 12, 2017, at 3:41 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > EDIT – Turned out there was a reason his crew made themselves scarce – If > they had checked the batteries to know they were bad, they knew about the > leaks! Hmm- good time to find something else to do………. > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny > Haughey via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 3:29 PM > To: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&c 40 bolts > > Hi Joe, > > Yea but, the right thing to do is, when you realize the condition is far more > difficult to address, is call the owner and keep them in the loop. If the > boat is sitting in the yard and accessible, there is no reason not to go > assess the condition. I mean, I'd never have given an estimate on a plumbing > job without having gone to look. Then if something gets uncovered during the > project you let the owner know what you've found immediatly and make them a > part of the decision making. > > If you had gone and looked at the guys battery compartment ahead of time, > would you have been able to see that there would be extra work? > > Like I said those guys at my last Marina did exactly that. i ask if if they > would quote something, I'd get a response that he would go look at it and he > would give a quick rundown of his observation and work up a number with, > maybe, some note about something he thought might give some trouble. Oh and > he torqued my keel bolts on the Viking no charge! LOL > > I'd still be there but, they said they weren't comfortable pulling the stick > with the furling boom track on the back of the mast... > > Danny > > > On 6/12/2017 11:35 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List wrote: > The first time I needed to tighten my keelbolts, Port Annapolis gave me a big > socket wrench and said have at it - $0.00 J 5 hours seems 4 too high just to > tighten a few bolts! > That said, and having once been in the business, estimating jobs on boats is > incredibly hard to do. Imagine all the times the “5 minute job” involved > snapping corroded bolts, wire that crumbles in your hand, etc. etc.. We once > had a job to swap batteries out on a motoryacht. How hard could that be? Old > ones out, new ones in, call it an hour or two if I have to drive. It turned > out to be 6 hours times two people for a 12 hour bill. The old batteries had > all cracked, there was acid everywhere, and the batteries were located > outboard of the engines with fingertip access for 8D batteries. The owner was > irate until I offered to put the old batteries and acid back in place. I told > him if he could recruit a friend and change the batteries out faster than we > did I would give him the new batteries for FREE and no labor either. I think > showing him the acid burns on my arms helped – he paid the bill right then LOL > > Joe > Coquina > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny > Haughey via CnC-List > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 11:23 AM > To: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List C&c 40 bolts > > well, > > I guess if you add in the time the guy took to listen to the request, then, > the time it took to find the guy to do the job and tell him about it, and > then the time it took to go get the tools and go to the boat and climb on > board, take a nap, then tighten the bolts and fill out the time slip, I guess > it could go 5 hours... > > The yard I'm at now seems unwilling to give prices for projects. They just > want your work at time and material. so, there is no risk on their part and > no pressure on their guys to work efficiently. I consider this a DIY yard > now. You know, if they didn't charge the full rate for everyone the pricing > might be a bit more fair but, they want full rate on anything they do. I > mean, obviously, they don't need the work or, they would be better at > pricing. I know in construction, when the pricing does not make any sense, > the contractor doesn't really want your work but, will take it if the reward > is high enough. > > I asked for a price recently on touching up bottom paint and all I got was, > "yes, we do that for you..." No price, no estimate, no thanks! > > Here is the amazing thing to me. boats are a true luxury, no one NEEDS a > boat. Most of us have limited budgets to spend on them and (at least me > Lately!) wonder if it is even worth it, financially, to own a boat. Given > the the short season around here, the monthly cost is pretty high. Then, you > have these boat service places that just want to pry as much from your hands > as possible. > > I have to say, I really miss FL Tipps in westport, ma. We had some issues > but, they did run things like a real service company. Accurate quotes that > they stood by. Discounts for scheduling early for winter work. Fair pricing > on time and material work. No labor padding. When you store there, they > don't charge for moving your boat, they don;t charge for moving your mast so > you can work on it. I've actually gotten labor bills for 1 hour or part of > an hour. > > Where I am now, they charge you for even thinking about your boat it seems! > > Danny > > > On 6/12/2017 9:33 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote: > Did that include pulling the mast to get at the one under the step? > If not, 5 hours is about 4 hours too long for that job! Just went through it > myself last year. They might want two guys to do it, so I would compromise > with them and say you'll pay for two hours. Otherwise I would be shouting > from the rooftops and raising holy hell with them. Five hours to tighten 5 > nuts?! Tell them you'll ensure they get lots of publicity for their expertise > in fleecing their customers. Then get the heck out of that place! > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 8:41 AM, PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi guys > > Before I speak to the yard. About charging me 5 hours to torque my 5 bolts 3 > large at 450ft/lbs that I fully exposed i.e. Moved wires removed cabin table > and covers cleared water from bildge > > just wondering what the avg time charged or if it takes multiple guys to do > this job > > Peter > Goonie island C&c 40 1983 aft cabin > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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