I am probably stating the obvious, but make sure that there is _something_ 
holding the mast backwards (i.e. either a halyard, halyard/mainsheet 
combination, or the topping lift/mainsheet combination). If you release the 
backstay without that support, the forestay would pull the mast forward.

I would secure it with the halyard (as I always do when attaching the backstay 
or working on the forestay).

Marek

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Backstay length and tension

Ditto Josh's solution.

Keel step rig. No issue with back stay off in calm or light conditions. If in 
doubt use main halyard aft to block it.

Dennis C.

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On May 11, 2017, at 8:50 AM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
They said was that there were only a few threads engaged on the turnbuckle and 
they were leaving it to me to tighten it further.  I thought Josh’s idea to 
take tension off the backstay with the halyard makes a lot of sense.  I will 
take a look at that today.  I know the backstay adjuster was mostly loose as I 
had pushed it up with a pole this spring when I was playing with shroud 
adjustment.
1.  How much tension should there be with the adjuster up as far as it will go 
without a pole pushing it.  Should there actually be slack to put the pins back 
in with the turnbuckles loose but attached without taking tension off with the 
halyard as Josh suggested?
2.  I am presuming that it is safe to work on the rig with the backstay 
detached (meaning the mast is still well supported by the deck, forestay and 
shrouds)?
Thanks- Dave

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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On May 11, 2017, at 8:23 AM, robert 
<robertabb...@eastlink.ca<mailto:robertabb...@eastlink.ca>> wrote:

David:

My boat has the same setup for a backstay.....split with an adjuster.....I 
unstep and step my mast, however, I have no problem attaching the split 
backstay which I am the one usually doing it.

I leave the turn buckle(s) attached and simply remove the split ring and pin in 
the Fall and in the Spring, one at a time put the pin(s) in......and when I do 
this, the forestay is always attached first for obvious reasons.....the length 
of the forestay is 'set'......when the backstay is attached, the turn buckles 
are tightened.

I can see where it would be difficult if the backstay turn buckles were 
removed......then it becomes a two person job to attach them.....you really 
need one person pulling back and down on the backstay and the second threading 
the turn buckle....it can be done with one person but a lot simpler with two.

Just curious, when the backstay is attached and tightened, how much 'thread' is 
showing inside the turnbuckle?   Just wondering if your forestay is too tight.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2017-05-10 11:34 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:
My boat has a split backstay with an adjuster that is pulled down with block 
and tackle to pinch the split and increase tension (Is there a nautical name I 
should know?).  My boat was splashed today and the yard crew complained for the 
second year about the difficulty reattaching the backstay.  I don’t think 
previous yards even disconnected it, but something about their sling and lift 
system means they have to come in with the sling from the rear with no 
backstay.  I am pretty sure the mast has a slight backward rake, so I can’t see 
why the length of the backstay would be a problem, but apparently even with the 
turnbuckles and adjuster loosened, they can barely get it reattached.  I can’t 
come up with a reason why they would have such a problem and if it means that 
something is not right with the rig.  I will check the rake again tomorrow now 
that the boat is floating and level, but it has always had some amount of rake 
as measured by a weight hanging from the main halyard.  Any thoughts on 
something I might be missing or is it normal for that kind of backstay to have 
limited adjustability?  Thanks- Dave

Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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