What needs to be considered in this discussion of best sails for pointing, vmg, 
etc., is where and why you are sailing.


1. In light summer airs in shore within the rivers and sounds of the NC coast, 
you may outpoint a 12 meter with a 90% headsail--but good luck even approaching 
your 'hull speed'. Even if you are 'cruising', (not racing) when the winds stay 
below 10 knots and the temps are in the 90s, you might appreciate the 'breeze' 
provided by getting the boat to move in any direction--never mind the hassle of 
tacking such a large beast.


2. OTOH, if I did a lot of single-handed sailing or mostly cruised, I'd 
probably leave it ashore. Similarly if I was sailing off-shore.


Within reason, I want my sails to match the conditions I sail in, whether I 
race or cruise and whether I have a bunch of crew or single hand my boat.


FWIW,


Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb





cenel...@aol.com




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From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: C&C <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: ALAN BERGEN <trya...@alumni.usc.edu>
Sent: Mon, May 1, 2017 3:49 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail advice for C&Cs in general



Speed isn't the only thing that matters.  Compare your VMG with two different 
size sails.  Even if you were to sail slower with a smaller sail, but point 
higher, you could get around the course faster with a better handicap.  You can 
sail with jib alone, but with much less power.  When you tack with jib alone, 
the wind tends to cause you to tack past your intended course, until you have 
enough speed to come back to your course.  My main has a large roach, and in 
light air, the upper batten catches on the backstay.  When that happens, I have 
to let the traveler go, ease the mainsheet or ease the halyard, until the 
batten frees itself.


Alan



On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, bushmark4--- via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Alan, I am glad to hear you do well with the 105; I have always heard that our 
boats get their power from the headsail, and was thus reluctant to go below a 
130; however, if I understand your experience, you do as well with a smaller 
headsail as with a larger one.    I notice most, if not all of the newer 
designs have very large mains with oversize roach area...have you had to do 
anything to the main?
Another area I have wondered about is if he boat could be sailed with the 
headsail only?  Would you be able to develop enough power, and able to steer 
the boat easily with a small headsail?

 thanks


Richard

s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596;


Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 

 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon, May 1, 2017 2:33 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail advice for 35





Joe:


When I first got my boat, I raced with a 155.  It kept back-winding the main, 
so I tried using a 135  with better results.  I gained six seconds in handicap, 
and there was no noticeable reduction in speed.  Then I tried racing with a 
105.  I gained another three seconds; I sail just as fast, and I point five 
degrees higher.  In fact, I point higher than everyone else in my fleet, and I 
get to the windward mark sooner than the rest of the fleet.  The crew can tack 
faster, and in light air, the sail won't flap around like larger sails will.


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR





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