Bruno,
     You are absolutely right.  You have noted to one problem with my
solution.  Installing the hand rails is a two person job.

Gary

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Gary, your solution sounds even better, I doubt you will ever have the
> spinning issue. The only advantage I see in my setup is that I can set the
> handrail with the bolt aligned in the holes, push it down and then put the
> nuts from the inside all by myself. I don't know for you, but since the
> rail is curved, I always have to work the handrail a bit to align it with
> the holes.
>
> I do however find some washers and nuts in the bilge that I had dropped,
> wish is sometimes frustrating and could cause a problem for the bilge
> pump...nothing is perfect!
>
> Bruno Lachance
>>
>> Becassine, 1987 33 mkII
>>
>> New-Richmond, Qc
>>
>
>>
>
>
> Envoyé de mon iPad
>
> Le 22 mars 2017 à 13:10, Gary Russell via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> a écrit :
>
> Bruno,
>      I did the same thing on my 35 MkII, but I epoxied the nut in the hand
> rail, and inserted the 1/4"-20 screw up from the inside.  I used butyl "O"
> rings to seal.  It worked very well for me (for 18 years) and I never had
> trouble with the nut spinning.
>
> Gary
> S/V Kaylarah
>
>
> ~~~~~~~_/)~~~~~~
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bruno Lachance via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On my boat, the exterior and interior handrails are offset. The PO wanted
>> to be able to remove the exterior handrails during the winter months so he
>> could do the varnish at home. He used thickened époxy to glue the bolts and
>> teak plugs from the outside so they dont turn when he  put the nut on from
>> the Inside of the cabin. In my boat i have plugs in the headliner covering
>> the holes.
>>
>>
>> This ritual is now part of my routine, i remove the handrails every fall
>> and bring them home. And each year my girlfriend gets better at refreshing
>> the varnish on the handrails, cockpit table, and main hatch door (i know, i
>> am a Lucky guy!)
>>
>>
>> Since i bought the boat in 2009, last year was the first year i had to
>> deal with a free spinning bolt. I drilled the plug to undo, cleaned the
>> hole and redo the job with thickened époxy,  new bolt and teak plug.
>>
>>
>> This works for me. BTW i bed my rails with a thin layer of fresh butyl
>> each year. Easy to remove and clean.
>>
>>
>> It would also work with your setup, but if you want to remove then as i
>> do, i guess you would need to live with recessed esxposed fasteners in the
>> cabin...
>>
>>
>> Bruno Lachance
>>
>> Becassine, 1987 33 mkII
>>
>> New-Richmond, Qc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *De :* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> de la part de Joseph
>> Bognar via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Envoyé :* 21 mars 2017 13:18
>> *À :* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc :* Joseph Bognar
>> *Objet :* Re: Stus-List putting teek hand rails back together - tips
>>
>> I did this on my 79 30 Mk 1 also. A small flathead screwdriver in the
>> hole will hold the nut from turning . If you are sealing the outer rails
>> with 4200 or similar do not over-tighten the handrails . Just snug enough
>> to squeeze a bit of sealant out then let it cure . Snug up after it has
>> cured .
>>
>> Sent from Joe Bognar
>>
>>
>> On Mar 21, 2017, at 12:05 PM, RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> I'll be fastening Grenadine's new exterior handrails in a couple weeks.
>> She's a 30-1, hull #7, built September 1972.  I'm pretty sure her old
>> handrails were original, and they were fastened with screws through the
>> cabin top from the inside.  No bungs on the exterior handrails.  I drilled
>> out the bungs from the interior handrails, which covered a long screw
>> fastening both the interior and exterior handrails.  Then, under each
>> interior handrail base, there were two more shorter screws fastening the
>> exterior handrails.  I've got pictures of the project at
>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTc093OExfMGRBX1E.
>>
>> I know that doesn't address your specific question.  But maybe you could
>> consider changing fasteners.  Instead of using bolts and nuts, maybe you
>> could switch to using just screws from the inside?  You could fill and bung
>> the holes in the exterior handrails as necessary.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Steven Tattrie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *To: *"cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Cc: *"Steven Tattrie" <steven.tatt...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:45:40 AM
>> *Subject: *Stus-List putting teek hand rails back together - tips
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I removed teak hand rails from my C&C30 MK1 1979 last fall. There is an
>> inside and outside rail that are both fastened together by the same bolt
>> and nut (inside nut). Both ends are recessed into the rail with teak plug
>> to fill the hole.
>>
>> I haven't tried to install them back yet however, I am wondering how I
>> can hold the nut on the inside so that it does not turn keeping in mind
>> that it is recessed into the wood and a socket/ wrench will not hold it
>> (fit in the hole).
>>
>> Any tips on this process!!
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
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