I made the mistake this year and signed up for not one but two years' renewal for $150 through this group so I'm essentially out $98. It was my first year doing a renewal and was not dialed in to the fees.It was not until I received this thread that I realized I had been duped. Whereas their site makes no overt effort to inform you they are NOT the official Coast Guard renewal site, I will say they did process and send my new certificate in record time (less than 2 weeks). Lessons learned... Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 LF 35 Padanaram MA Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > FWIW, I almost fell for the same trick a couple years ago. I filled out the > on-line form, but when I got to the price I figured there was no way the fee > went up that much. So I left the form and found the authentic government > vessel registration site. I called the government office in West Virginia > and reported the scam, but apparently they do not intend to do anything about > it. > > From: PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List > Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 1:33 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: PETER OCAMPO > Subject: Re: Stus-List Deceitful USCG Documentation Renewal Company > > Randy > > I'll make you feel. Being a new boat owner I googled us coast guard > documentation saw the web site and filled out the forms for transfer of > ownership and they took me for 450 but I would never had known I had over > paid had if not been for your post. > > So next time I'll use the real uscg website. So thanks for saving me money > in the future > > Peter > > Goonie island C&c 40 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 4, 2017, at 11:29 AM, RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yes I found the USCG NVDC to be very straightforward and helpful when I >> exchanged Grenadine's CoD from her previous owner to me one year ago. The >> USCG officers with whom I spoke on the phone were professional and >> informative, and the website and forms and procedures were easy to >> understand and easy to use. >> >> My complaint here is that there a predatory third-party business trying to >> deceive vessel owners into thinking it is the USCG NVDC, and then bilking >> them for 3X the cost of what the USCG NVDC charges for the same service. It >> succeeded in doing that to me. Fool me once, shame on me. I'm not the >> first person to get screwed by this unscrupulous company and complain about >> it - see >> https://www.bbb.org/losangelessiliconvalley/business-reviews/not-elsewhere-classified/us-marine-surveyors-inc-or-us-vessel-documenta-in-long-beach-ca-646887/reviews-and-complaints >> >> Cheers, >> Randy >> >> From: "phorvati ." <phorv...@gmail.com> >> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: "RANDY" <randy.staff...@comcast.net> >> Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 8:56:03 AM >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Deceitful USCG Documentation Renewal Company >> >> I purchased a tayana fd12 in september, ended up submitting several parts of >> the application, all per the instruction document. Few of them were release >> of primary mortgage bill of sale and exchange of COD. all via email and >> pdfs attached. I was a bit scepticall but the coast guard website was >> accurate on processing times. I got the new COD last week. it was under >> 100$. So it took a bit, my guess was due to request for release of PM. >> Coast Guard website works but u need to do your own due diligence, read >> requirements and fulfill them as required. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2017 8:17 PM, "RANDY via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> Listers - fair warning - I got deceived today into paying 3X what I needed >>> to for USCG documentation renewal. I received a letter via USPS from an >>> entity named "U.S. Vessel Documentation", domain name uscgdocumentation.us, >>> titled "Vessel Renewal Courtesy Notice". As I'm sure the sender intended, >>> I mistook the letter as being from the United States Coast Guard National >>> Vessel Documentation Center, reminding me to renew my Certificate of >>> Documentation. It's been on my mind that my CoD is expiring soon, and I've >>> been expecting a reminder. >>> >>> So I went to uscgdocumentation.us, filled out the renewal form, and >>> submitted it. I was surprised to see the price was $75 - I'd remembered >>> the renewal cost being ~$25 - but I thought "well, the Coast Guard must >>> have raised their prices", and submitted the form anyway, with my credit >>> card information. >>> >>> Somehow sometime after doing that, I noticed fine print at the very bottom >>> of uscgdocumentation.us web pages, where you wouldn't even normally scroll >>> or look, saying "U.S. Vessel Documentation is NOT the U.S. Coast Guard or >>> the National Vessel Documentation Center; we are a third party agency that >>> handles USCG Documentation processing to NVDC." >>> >>> So then I went to the real USCG NVDC website, >>> https://www.uscg.mil/nvdc/default.asp, where I applied for an exchange of >>> the CoD last year when I bought Grenadine (since she was previously >>> USCG-documented), and confirmed their renewal fee is only $26 and you can >>> file for renewal online right there. >>> >>> At that point I realized I'd been had, and immediately requested >>> cancellation of my renewal order from that company, in writing, and in >>> voice mail, and filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the >>> USGC NVDC about "U.S. Vessel Documentation", and contacted my credit card >>> company to block the charge from this merchant. I'm now in the process of >>> posting about this experience on sailing-related forums I've visited. >>> >>> If you own a USCG-documented vessel, *DO NOT* do business through the >>> deceitful company uscgdocumentation.us, unless you don't mind paying 3X the >>> cost of something you could do directly though >>> https://www.uscg.mil/nvdc/default.asp. These "U.S. Vessel Documentation" >>> people are predatory. >>> >>> I've posted the letter I received, and an email exchange I had with this >>> company, at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTeU1HcDZKTWdiQzA. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Randy Stafford >>> S/V Grenadine >>> C&C 30-1 #7 >>> Ken Caryl, CO >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. 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