An update on this. 

I decided to wait until the offseason to continue this project. Yesterday I was 
successful at removing the exterior handrails - slightly destructively. Some of 
the screw shafts were broken so turning the heads did no good, but the screw 
shafts were still holding the handrails to the cabin top. Also the adhesive 
bedding at a couple of the bases had a pretty strong grip. I had to break the 
bases free in a couple places (notably, the bases above the bulkhead) using a 
thin nylon scraper and a claw hammer. In some cases I broke the handrail but 
I'm replacing them anyway. 

On the starboard side at the second-to-forwardmost base there was a screw whose 
head I couldn't get to. It's under the header trim on the aft side of the 
bulkhead separating the salon from the washroom. To access that screw head I 
would have had to remove all kinds of trim from the bulkhead (and put it back), 
and I found it easier to basically break the handrail off that screw. When I 
install the new handrails I'll have to clip off that screw, and there will only 
be one screw holding the handrail on at that base. Oh well. 

I did manage to get the starboard rail off in one piece, to use as a template 
for cutting out the new rails from the piece of teak stock I found. 

There are new pictures of the project at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTc093OExfMGRBX1E . Will be 
starting fabrication of the new handrails shortly. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Wally Kowal via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Wally Kowal" <wally.ko...@rogers.com> 
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 1:22:04 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Removing 30-1 Exterior Handrails 

Randy, 
I removed my 30 Mk1 handrails a few years ago for refinishing. The port forward 
screws are under the sliding head door track and over the sink. The starboard 
screws are under the sliding head door track and over the hanging locker. 

Wally 
Whistler II 
C&C 30 out of Penetanguishene, ON 
On the hard for the year :( 



From: RANDY via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> 
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 10:51 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Removing 30-1 Exterior Handrails 

Listers - especially those who have replaced exterior handrails on a 30-1 :) 

I'm hoping you can advise me on how to remove exterior handrails from a 30-1. 
Specifically, how to un-fasten the forward two bases of each handrail. 

I attempted to remove my exterior handrails today and was unsuccessful. There 
must be some screws into the forward two bases that I can't see from inside the 
boat (and there aren't bungs covering screw heads on the outside). 

Unscrewing the aft four bases of the exterior handrails was straightforward. 
Their screws are shared with or covered by the interior handrails. So I drilled 
out the bungs on the interior handrails and removed them. They're held on with 
four long screws that go all the way through into the outside handrails. Once 
the inside rails are off you can see holes in the cabin liner for two more 
screws per base of the exterior handrails. Those screws are shorter of course 
and came out easily enough, freeing the aft four bases of the exterior 
handrail. All those screws had #2 square recessed heads BTW. 

But the forward two bases are perplexing. On the port side, there were two 
chrome screw covers in the cabin liner above the head sink, and one immediately 
forward and immediately aft of the bulkhead separating the salon from the head. 
On the starboard side there were two chrome screw covers above the hanging 
locker / shelves, but only one immediately forward of the bulkhead (I don't see 
one aft of the bulkhead). I popped all those screw covers off, and removed the 
screws they were covering, but that was not sufficient to free the forward two 
bases of the exterior handrails. There seem to be more screws holding them on, 
whose heads are concealed. 

For those of you 30-1 owners who have replaced your handrails, how did you 
access the screws holding the forward two bases on? Did you cut a hole in your 
cabin liner? I'm OK with destructive removal of the old handrails, but worry 
about damaging the fiberglass around the screw holes. And I probably wouldn't 
be able to fasten the new handrails exactly the same way if I went the 
destructive removal route. 

I put some pictures at 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-NqAxQ6JxFTc093OExfMGRBX1E. I'm hoping 
somebody can tell me the magic answer :) 

Thanks In Advance, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 

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