Mike I would feel the same way (about having an iPad floating around the cockpit) if I was critically dependent on the device for navigation while sailing on bigger waters than my little lake :) I'm sure there are solutions for waterproof-encasing an iPad and mounting it firmly in the cockpit etc. But you'd still have to keep it charged if sailing for long time periods, and what if a solar-powered bluetooth-enabled instrument failed and could no longer transmit, etc. I generally aspire to coastal cruising, and when I do that I will want proven ruggedized instrumentation. But for racing Grenadine around Chatfield Reservoir, the SailTimer products were very fitting - affordable and intriguing.
Cheers, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike via CnC-List Hoyt" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Mike Hoyt" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:11:21 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! Pete Have used ST60 speed/depth/wind on the last number of boats that we sailed on extensively. Robust instruments and easy to use. Only issue was the connectors on the back had to be replaced on the wire ends after a few years (annoyance). Used B&G for a bit with current boat when we bought it and really did not like them. Displays were starting to fail and absolutely no way to replace with newer model displays so built in obsolescence. Also very expensive. I won’t speak to the plotters, radars and other instruments but I have always liked these three standard sailing instruments. Our current i50/i60 series are also very nice but do not look to be built as ruggedly as the ST50 / ST60 series. I am also not a fan of having an iPad floating around in the cockpit. Nav station yes, cockpit no. If I was to be dependent on a device such as an iPad and it got knocked around or overboard in rough weather that would at the very least be a distraction. Very nice for redundant system but I cannot see it being a primary system until it is made to the same rugged standards as existing instrumentation. My $0.02 Mike Persistence Raymarine i50/i60 speed, depth, wind Raymarine wheel pilot Garmin GPSMAP 740 Standard Horizon GX2200 with AIS display and ram mic Ramarine a65 KVH Sailcomp Microsoft Surface with Navionics From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete Shelquist via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:59 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Pete Shelquist Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! You raymarine guys kill me. Defend it to the end and drag others down when it's obvious that Ray falls short. I've been saying it for years: friends don't let friends buy raymarine. Dave/others; Per Garmin FAQ, Here's the solution if/when you decide to leave the raymarine dark side : "The easiest way to update the device is to purchase a NMEA 2000 Network Updater and attach it to the NMEA 2000 network that the device is connected to. The updater will add an SD card slot to the NMEA 2000 network which will allow and update to be sent to the device. A blank SD card with at least 300MB up to 2GB of space is also required. To create the update SD card, please follow these instructions: Download the latest update from the Marine Software Update Page to your desktop Double-click the file on the desktop When the window titled Marine Product Software Update appears, click the Next button Choose the drive letter that is assigned to the SD card reader Click the Next button Once the update is completed, click the Finish button Take the SD card and the NMEA 2000 Network Updater to the boat. To connect the NMEA 2000 Network Updater into the NMEA 2000 network, please follow these instructions: Connect the NMEA 2000 Network Updater's cable to the T-Connector it came with Disconnect two T-Connectors in the NMEA 2000 network on the boat Connect the Network Updater's T-Connector to both of the disconnected T-Connectors from step 2 To update the NMEA 2000 network, power on the NMEA 2000 network and all accessories and insert the SD card into the NMEA 2000 Network Updater. To know when the update is complete, please review the color of the LED on the NMEA 2000 Network Updater: Red - Error, no card inserted, or no update on card Orange - Update in progress Green - Update completed successfully Once the update is complete, the SD card can be removed from the Updater and all Garmin NMEA 2000 connected devices and accessories will be up to date." Boom. Get Outlook for iOS On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:40 AM -0500, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: I think Dave’s gripe had more to do with upgrading things other than the MFD; things like instruments and autopilots. And having to do those through an MFD from the same manufacturer. I don’t think I’d want to be able to upgrade a Raymarine autopilot through a Garmin MFD; Garmin might just sabotage the process… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Sep 20, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Paul Fountain via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: My ray eS7 does the same …… Paul Fountain Perception II 1985 C&C 33-II k/cb Port Credit Yacht Club From: CnC-List [ mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike < mike.h...@impgroup.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! My Garmin GPSMap 740 plotter uses a SD Card to update firmware after downloading the file to the SD card from a computer which in turn gets the file from the internet. Mike Persistence Halifax, NS _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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