John,

Have you tried a sail pack?  It's a considerably less expensive option.
Maybe something to consider before committing a bunch of boat bucks.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Jul 5, 2016 7:03 PM, "John Pennie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

Thanks folks.  It's really coming down to furl boom or the Schaefer
system.  I will not consider forespar after my experience(s) with their
customer support - on a system I paid for.

Furl boom had issues in the past but seems to be improved. Schaefer seems
to have a very good reputation but the booms just seem a bit chunky to me
(no taper) - perhaps they have improved that.  Both are priced about the
same. Any issues with the foil on the mast?

Thanks

John






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On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

A Shaffer system came on our new boat as well. I have to say I really like
it. We've been playing around with it trying to get used to it and get it
adjusted to the right angle to take the sale in properly. They claim the
sail can furl at any point of sail but, I found that not to be the case.
You still have to go head to wind and take the pressure off the sail and
it'll go down nicely.

I found Tom's comments to be the same on mine that the boom furler is just
capable of handling the mai sail within the housing.  its very tight at the
end. I also had to have a smaller furling line made up because it got real
tight  up on the furler.

Although, they did make a good main sail for the furler.  when I brought it
in for service Steve Thurston said it was a very nice sail and built
properly.

Boom furling was something I always dreamed of having. However, I never
thought I would ever pay that price. Now I don't have too!

When this thing is dialed in and you push a button and the main sail comes
down its amazing!

I have also found Shaffer customer service to be very good on a product I
didn't even buy for myself.

Danny



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-------- Original message --------
From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 7/5/16 12:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Tom Buscaglia <t...@sv-alera.com>
Subject: Stus-List Was Sail Cover, now In Boom Furling

John

We have a Schaefer system
https://www.schaefermarine.com/our-products/boom-furlers/ .  It was
installed by the PO.  So, I did not do any prepurchase research on it, but
we like it.  The electric winch that was also installed is a great addition
to the boat as well.  Schaefer customer support has been great.  Especially
considering the fact that I am not the original purchaser and it is about
10 years old.

The issues we have had are in two areas.  First, the PO went with Beta, the
smaller of the two sizes offered, which puts our 45' luff right at the top
of the size for the diameter of the boom.  This results in the luff tape
gets tightly rolled up and barely fits.  I also had to downsize the furling
line because it was having a similar issue on the furling drum.  If you
have anything close to 44' best to go with the Gamma.  It costs about 6
boat bucks more, but it's you boat, damnit.

Next PO error was going cheap on the sails.  The main was not built to the
Schaefer specs and I had to have it rebuilt twice.  Why anyone would spend
that kind if $ on the in boom furling and then go cheap on sails is beyond
me...  We finally tossed the old sails last year in favor of a new set from
the UK loft in Sidney BC.  (I nice discount and the favorable exchange rate
closed the deal for me.)  Stu did a great job on the new main.  But I have
only had it up a few times.  We cruise throughout August.  So, I'll have a
better opinion afterwards.

You will also probably need a new boom vang.  Either a fixed vang like we
have or one with a limited range of adjustment.  This is due to the fact
that the boom must be at a precise 87 degree angle to the mast to properly
furl the full battens into the boom.

That said, it is really great for us.  I am not sure I would have spent the
money to install it.  But now that we have it, I would not hesitate to do
it.  My wife and I cruise alone almost exclusively and she doesn't feel
comfortable at the helm.  So instead of her having to go up on deck to the
mast and manually cranking the sail up she sits snugly under the dodger and
pushes a button to raise the sail.   Reefing is a breeze as well.

I am getting better at tuning  the main, but it is not as versatile as a
topping lift or even a fully adjustable vang.  But I am learning that some
tuning is possible by tightening down the furler, using a tweeker on the
boom and using the baby stay.  We don;t have them but I am sure that having
adjustable back stays would give even  more options.

Tom B


At 09:00 AM 7/5/2016, you wrote:

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 10:47:09 -0400
From: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail cover
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Tom:

Which furling system dud you go with and how do you like it?  We?re
considering adding this to the 121.  We had a leisure furl system on a
previous boat which we liked very much (bud didn?t care for the
manufacturer).

John

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Vashon Island WA
(206) 463-9200
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