+1. I spent three years crewing on other people's boats - headsail and 
spinnaker trimmer, foredeck, driver, "fourth", etc. - before buying my own boat 
and raising a crew for racing. My crew are relatively inexperienced and I want 
us all to rotate around and cross-train on every position. But that's still not 
the same as one person crewing around on different boats with different crews. 
My crew won't get that cross-pollination. It helps you judge what works well 
and what doesn't, and pick up information from a variety of sources. 

Cheers, 
Randy 

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From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: "Dennis" <capt...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:05:28 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List '88 MkII 30 polar? 

Ditto. That's what I did. Not only do you absorb a lot of sailing go fast 
knowledge, you will also see what works best as far as running rigging 
configurations, strategy, etc. I worked every position on lots of boats. My 
time spent racing on other boats was priceless. I still do it. 

As a skipper who has experience as main trimmer, genoa trimmer, grinder, put, 
foredeck, mast, etc. I understand what each crew member is doing, needs to do. 
Makes me a better skipper. BTW, I didn't usually drive the boat. One of my crew 
was better at it. I usually did foredeck. 

Guy in my marina races his boat. He only drives. He never races on other boats 
nor does he do other positions on his boat. His racing program never improves. 

The other advantage to racing on other boats is you don't have to pay for 
broken stuff. :) 

Dennis C. 
Touché 35-1 #83 
Mandeville, LA 

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On Apr 28, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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Hi Lorne, 

Please do not try to learn how to sail and to race with a liveaboard boat that 
you just got in to. 

The very best way to learn racing and sailing is to get out by crewing on well 
found yachts. The ego of most crew members will smother you with information 
and by the end of a season you will see much of it applied. Good and bad. 

Then you can use your own boat, loaded as she will be, for pleasure. Say, a 
nice daysail once in awhile. 

Cheers, Russ 
Sweet 35 mk-1 


At 03:20 PM 28/04/2016, you wrote: 

<blockquote>
Never raced before, interesting table with lots of boats. I obviously have 
lots of reading tonight when I get off work. What dimensions are best to get 
as close to match and in what priority? I assume "I" J, P, E etc in that order 
need to match and that I is more important to match than J and more so then P 
etc down the line. 
 
I do plan to get into racing this year, but it's a whole new world to me. I 
mainly bought it to live on, but want to increase my sailing experience. 






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On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 
I'd look at the PHRF rating for similar sized boats like a Bene Oceanis 31, 
Dehler 29 etc. and use the closest. 

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Lorne Serpa via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 

A couple of my new weather routing apps would like a polar to make routing more 
accurate.  Anyone have one or know where to get one? If not, there polar are 
prep loaded. Would any get me close? 

C5g3 
A35 
BP5 
CIGALE14 
CLASS40 
FIGARO2 
IMOCA2008MONO650 
POGO850 
TRANSPAC52 

Archambault 
a31 a35 a40rc 
Bavaria 
bavaria33 bavaria32 bavaria34 
Bénéteau 
evasion32 figaro2 first210 first21_7 first25_7 first26 first27_7 first30jk 
first310s first31_7 first325gte first32s5 oceanis31 oceanis34Â first24 first29 
evasion34 firstclass10 oceanis351 
Dehler 
dehler29 dehler32 
Dufour 
dufour27 dufour34Â dufour24 dufour34 
Etap 
etap32i 
Express 
express27 
Farr 
far36od mumm30 
Hallberg Rassy 
J Boats 
j105 j109 j120 j122 j133 
Jeanneau 
jod35 melody sunfast32 sunfast3200 sunfast32i 
Tartan 
tartan10 
Wauquiez 
gladiateur 
X Yachts 
x332 xp33 

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