Hi Fred....I have sailed in 30k winds with just a furled jib....wonderful,
comfortable sailing. A partial jib alone is a great sail plan....as long as
you don't need to point and and the mast isn't pumping....the mainsail supports
the mast...if needed....--==>Spencer1894 Landfall 38 "Alegria"
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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4. Re: To foam or not to foam... (jtsails)
5. Re: West coast rendezvous (Patrick Davin)
6. Re: To foam or not to foam... (Marek Dziedzic)
7. Re: Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:13:10 -0400
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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I too elected to get the rope. The nice thing is that it is easily removed
and replaced/reduced/increased. It is also more flexible so it will not
hold a shape and will articulate with the sail fabric betted. Just my
observations and opinion. I've had 1 new sails with foam, an old sail
with rope and a new sail with rope.
The rope or the foam is designed to take up the belly of the sail when its
fuelled. Without it the sail will act as though it is blown out while
close hulled.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 17, 2016 12:32 PM, "Frederick G Street via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and
> would like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a
> foam luff. In the past, I haven?t relied much on furling, knowing that
> regardless of the foam luff (or not), a furled sail?s shape isn?t going to
> be ideal.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ? Fred
>
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
>
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:14:33 -0400
From: wwadjo...@aol.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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I have a UK tapedrive 144 with foam.? When furled it is smooth and clean right
down to 100.? I can't speak to dacron.? But if done right it makes sense to me.
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Evening Star
Pentwater, Mi
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:16:33 -0400
From: Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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My foam luff never collapsed in 12 years of my use and the sail was 20 years
old when I retired it.
Bob Boyer
Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer
> On Mar 17, 2016, at 4:58 PM, sthoma20--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> My sail maker sewed a piece of line into a pocket instead of using foam. His
> thinking is that the line will never collapse.
>
> Steve Thomas
> C&C27 MKIII
> Port Stanley, ON
>
> ---- Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would
> like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a foam luff.
> In the past, I haven?t relied much on furling, knowing that regardless of
> the foam luff (or not), a furled sail?s shape isn?t going to be ideal.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> ? Fred
>
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:24:12 -0400
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To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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Fred,
On my 38 Mk2, I opted for a 120% headsail with no foam. The smaller sail is
easier to handle and still moves the boat very well. Plus, I rarely feel
overpowered. Your boat is the same hull as mine, but your mast is a couple of
feet shorter, so I would probably go about 125%. Even at 120%, it?s a large
sail with a 20? LP, 1000 square feet!
James
Delaney
1976 C&C 38
Oriental, NC
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would
like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a foam luff.
In the past, I haven?t relied much on furling, knowing that regardless of the
foam luff (or not), a furled sail?s shape isn?t going to be ideal.
Thoughts?
? Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:30:33 -0700
From: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Douglas Mountjoy
<svpegasu...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List West coast rendezvous
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I'll also be doing Desolation Sound this summer, and likely further north.
June thru August, if we can get three months off. So there's a good chance
we will try to make the rendezvous August 5-7. Hard to say for sure now -
as they say, cruisers plans are written in sand at low tide. But we should
definitely sync up on plans in May/June!
Also I'll be doing a haul-out at Seaview from April 15th for about a week,
so if I don't see you before then, I can give you the 3/8" epdm foam I
promised then.
-Patrick
S/V Violet Hour
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:00 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> From: "svpegasu...@gmail.com" <svpegasu...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Stus-List West coast rendezvous
>
> I am planning on sailing to Desolation Sound in July and stopping at the
> Rendezvous on the way home to Seattle. If anyone wants to meet up somewhere
> or sail with me give me a shout. I could use crew as my girlfriend has to
> work, and won't be able to make the whole trip. She has to support me in
> the manner I wish to become accustomed to.
>
> I plan on leaving seattle around the middle of July and returning the
> middle of August.
>
>
> Doug Mountjoy
>
> svPegasus
>
> LF38
>
> just west of Ballard, WA.
>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:56:22 -0400
From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
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I was talked out of adding the foam luff when I order my sail. I wanted to have
it and my sailmaker recommended against it. I don?t miss it one bit. It is a
135% and I fairly regularly sail furled down to about 90%.
Just my $0.02.
Marek
1994 C270 ?Legato?
Ottawa, ON
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:31
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net>
Subject: Stus-List To foam or not to foam...
I?m going to be ordering a new furling 135% headsail for my LF38, and would
like everyone?s input on whether or not to pay the extra $$$ for a foam luff.
In the past, I haven?t relied much on furling, knowing that regardless of the
foam luff (or not), a furled sail?s shape isn?t going to be ideal.
Thoughts?
? Fred
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 19:59:22 -0400
From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ &
Melody)
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I second that (keel hauling). Especially, since I was threatened with that
option (for a different offence).
Marek
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 14:10
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: svpegasu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)
I opt for the keel hauling.
Doug Mountjoy
svPegasus
LF38
just west of Ballard, WA.
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From: Sean Richardson via CnC-List
Date: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 11:03
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> ;
Cc: Sean Richardson;
Subject:Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)
Only three options I can see to deal with this.
1) 1) Those who wish to, continue to delete/ignoreDigest replies. Or better
yet, just create a filter/rule to automatically chuckit in the bin.
2) 2) Stu removes the digest option altogether.
3) 3) Subject the offenders to a good Keelhauling.
I prefer #3, but that?s probably because I?ve been hanging outover at SA far
too much.
Sean
Lynx
1980 C&C 27 MKIII
Ottawa
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:
Not an affront, but many of us never look in those digest emails, so you might
not get much of an audience ;)
Joe
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ]On Behalf Of Brian Fry via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Brian Fry
Subject: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it (Russ & Melody)
Guilty as charged, again.
My sincere apologies. Sorry to offend anyone for my shortcomings. I am trying
my best, but after a long day wrestling with a Max prop I did manage to get my
return email address changed, put a signature line in the bottom, and delete
the threads that didn't apply. I missed the Subject line.
So yeah, Wow. It wasn't meant as a personal affront to anyone.
Message: 10
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 22:16:47 -0700
From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net <mailto:russ...@telus.net> >
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Wow, Digest guys just don't get it
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Change the subject line in your emails -- "Stus-List CnC-List
Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2" does not mean a dxxn thing. Some
subscribers have indicated that they just delete messages with that
subject line instead of reading them.
So, if you want your message read, CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE!!!!!!!!!!!
Stu
--
Brian Fry
S/V La Neige
1993 C&C 37/40XL
HdG Maryland
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