Halifax Doyle and North, yes, other local lofts - maybe not so much.

10 years ago I had an Aloha 27. Great boat. Out sailing one day at the end of the season the main ripped from just under the clew grommet for the first reefing point, all the way to the mast. Took it in to a local loft, said "if it is worth putting a patch on do it, but if the sail is toast don't bother, I will replace it". I got charged $150 for a repair and then on my way out the door was informed that I really needed a new main. Thanks!

So that year I got quotes from the local North loft (who are not the loft described above), from Mack Sails in Florida (recommended by a friend), and Lee Sails in Hong Kong. Lee kicked ass on both dealing with me, price, and performance. I had to measure for the sail, no big deal.

Last sail I bought was a 135, two years ago. I had quotes from Lee again, local North, and two others. North was a good price, I could have saved $100 going with Lee but that is close enough that I will happily pay the "local" premium. Very happy with the sail.

My conclusion - I'm not blindly going with local for romantic reasons. If they are in the ballpark I'm happy to go with them - I do this on boat parts because I want the local guys to survive, plus I get it right away - so saving $10 by buying it from Defender isn't worth it.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2016-02-25 11:26 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote:
I echo Mike's experience with the local sail lofts here.....I have also had nothing but excellent service and relations with both Doyle and North over the years.

It's the people that make the difference and the people at both lofts here are very connected to the local sailing community......they know many of us on a first name basis.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.

On 2016-02-25 11:13 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:

Steve

I am glad to hear that you had a positive experience with your overseas loft. I am also very dismayed to hear of your experiences with your local sailmakers

I would like to say that in the last 17 years of boat ownership we have had nothing short of excellent service and relations with the local lofts in Halifax. We have dealt with both Doyle in Dartmouth and North Sails Atlantic in Halifax. The friendliness, turnaround and workmanship of both have been first rate.

Unfortunately I will have to win a lottery before I can by any more sails.

Fortunately I do not currently need any more

Mike

Persistence

Halifax, NS

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
*Sent:* Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:57 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Stevan Plavsa
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Got a New 135% Head Sail

I purchased a Rolly Tasker 155 a couple of years ago for Suhana. It's a good sail but like the OP, I have nothing to compare it against except the original genoa which was deteriorating. So, leagues better than what I had. It was $1600 shipped to my door from Thailand and arrived two weeks after I placed the order. The local lofts all wanted about double for same/similar features and a lot more time.

Here's the rub and here's where I disagree with people on this list and others that tout the "support" and "cusomter service" of the local guys. I was treated better by the foreign sail loft. They answered my emails in a timely way, they were polite and /interested/. The locals, almost all of them, had a standoffish, almost arrogant attitude and they were slow to provide pricing and email replies. to me, that's terrible customer service. First and foremost, I want to be treated like a valued customer and that starts with the first hello, it doesn't start after I open my checkbook and they come out to my boat.

No thanks.

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto



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