A bit late to this thread but again, but another chuckle when recognizing a 
very similar experience.

As Martin said about those years in the late 70’s, my friend Charlie and I were 
asked to help out new owners of a 3/4 ton IOR boat of which I can’t remember 
the name, designer or builder. It was black.

Anyway, neither the owners nor their crew had spent much time on a race boat. 
Charlie and I had not much more experience but somehow were designated the 
“experts.” The race went badly for us. Very, very badly. Amateurs vs Pros. As 
Charlie said, “the only thing missing with this circus is the tent covering 
it…”.

The one thing that I did know moderately well was how to do was dock a boat. 
Especially with a folding prop. So we’re on the way back to the slip, alcoholic 
beverages in abundance and so forth. I was at the tiller and telling one of the 
owners that I was going to back the boat into its slip when we got back to the 
marina. The owner said that he liked to dock bow-in and that he would take the 
helm. Fine by me. 

So there we were coming into the slip at flank speed. I mentioned that maybe he 
might want to slow her down a bit but he said he had done this before and would 
apply full reverse as needed. As many have found out, full reverse works well. 
If given enough time and distance. Neither of which we had in any measurable 
amount when he put it in reverse gear and raised the throttle.

The boat hit so hard the bow rode two feet up that dock with appropriately 
expense crunching sounds. And back down. Charlie and I grabbed our kit and took 
off for Marmadukes hoping no-one we knew saw us.

Never saw those guys race that boat again, either…

Cheers,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
> On Dec 22, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> > The time it takes between putting her into reverse and actually moving 
> > backward with flow over the rudder is what can take several seconds with a 
> > folder… If other things are happening nearby (current, wind, pilings, 
> > etc.), these few seconds can seem like a very long time!.
>  
>  
> Back in the mid 70’s I was crewing on a C&C 39.  The local rock star 
> sailmaker was onboard for an event on Lake Washington related to Seattle 
> Yacht Club’s Opening Day parade.  A few adult beverages may have been 
> consumed in the process of crossing the lake to join a party at another 
> competitor’s lake front home.
>  
> When it was pointed out to the rock star he was pointing the 39’s bow into a 
> covered slip, he quickly hit reverse (A4 engine, Martec folding prop) and 
> added throttle.  With the standard delay in actually retarding the vessel’s 
> forward motion the 39’s forestay (Stearn’s twin stay IIRC) made a noticeable 
> twanging sound as it hit the metal roof over the slip.
>  
> It was hard to find the rock star at the party that afternoon.  Years later 
> that rock star became Calypso’s insurance agent.  I don’t think he ever 
> forgot how long it takes to reverse direction with a folding prop.
>  
> Martin DeYoung
> Calypso
> 1971 C&C 43
> Seattle
> 
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>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 12:20 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com <mailto:cenel...@aol.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Folding props
>  
> I was not referring to feathering props. As I understand them, they are 
> designed to be about equal in forward or reverse.
> My former Max-Prop 3 blade feathering prop was excellent and relatively 
> quickly got the boat going in reverse.
>  
> Any geared folding 2-blade prop will get a boat moving in reverse--just not 
> very efficiently--especially if it is optimized for forward motion
> and minimum drag when folded.
>  
> The time it takes between putting her into reverse and actually moving 
> backward with flow over the rudder is what can take several seconds with a 
> folder..
>  
> If other things are happening nearby (current, wind, pilings, etc.), these 
> few seconds can seem like a very long time!.
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>  
> cenel...@aol.com 
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