It will be a lot easier if you remove the base panel for the quarter berth.  I 
have cut my base panel roughly in half for ease of removal for many different 
projects in that area.  All it takes is a sawcut with a circular saw adjusted 
to the correct depth but beware of wiring!

Bob

Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer

> On Dec 8, 2015, at 10:36 AM, Patrick Davin via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> @Dave, I think you're probably right. Water could have gotten onto the 
> battery ledge from condensation or past engine leaks (the exhaust run was 
> replaced a few years ago, maybe the reason was that it was leaking). A cup or 
> so of standing water would just sit there until the next time the boat was 
> sailed on a port tack or motored in waves enough to induce roll. I think I 
> should also drill some limber holes at the back corners of the battery ledge. 
> 
> Thanks for the tips, I'm new to things like this, hadn't even thought of the 
> hole saw trick for starting a cut. I didn't really understand your mouse hole 
> idea though. The rotted area (tested tapping a screwdriver) is one section 
> about 4" horizontal at the base by 2-3" high, and the other section about 12" 
> horizontal and 6-8" high (a very large mouse hole). What's a "dutchman"?
> 
> I'm going to bring my moisture meter to the boat so I can get a better idea 
> of how much is rotted and how much isn't. 
> Initially the bluish / grey tint to the wood where the paint has peeled back 
> worried me, making me think the entire area is bad (even though it taps out 
> okay). Now I've realized I think C&C used wood that has a blue / gray 
> laminate or base paint layer. Because I see a similar color in the galley 
> shelves where the white paint is peeling back a little. 
> 
> @Rick, there is an access panel from the quarterberth, but that panel is 
> vertically above the area where the issue is, and it juts out about 8" - in 
> other words, the battery cubby is inset / receded under the quarterberth. 
> Hard to describe. So to see the wall rot from there I'd have to stick my head 
> into the engine space, push my head down and try to bend my neck around the 
> corner to get at the wall. I think it will be much easier to go in through 
> the below-quarterberth storage, but I'll probably have to remove the 
> quarterberth base panel to do that. 
> 
> Sorry the pictures aren't great, it's a tough area to photograph. I should've 
> taken a video with my GoPro. 
> 
> -Patrick
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 5:14 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dave Syer <syerd...@gmail.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com, "jda...@gmail.com" <jda...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 
>> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 19:17:48 -0500
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rot in non-structural bulkhead - thoughts?
>> Sorry - a little hasty and the dreaded double post.
>> 
>> If the entire bottom is rotten along a 2-3' length I would cut it out.  
>> First though, make sure by prodding it hard with a screwdriver along its 
>> length. Wash with bleach so you can see past the mildew..
>> 
>>> I would be very surprised if the rot was not a result of standing water 
>>> collecting at the bottom.   Even condensation dripping down if it is humid 
>>> as you say.   Any rot I've found in various boats started at the end grain, 
>>> and typically low down where water collects.  The holes cut for wires are a 
>>> typical trouble spot as there is plenty of end grain which has not been 
>>> glassed or finished conscientiously.   After you identify the rotted areas, 
>>> cut out the rot at described below, or if its a bigger area, buy or borrow 
>>> a Fein oscillating tool with a bimetal blade.  This is a gift for boat 
>>> surgeons.   As below, ensure the repair is saturated with epoxy.
>>> 
>>> My thought would be to cut above the area of rot it with a hole saw, then 
>>> cut vertically down to the bottom, making a mouse hole.  Size everything to 
>>> remove the rot.  Make the mouse hole big enough to work/sand inside.   Wash 
>>> the whole area with bleach to kill any spores.   (Careful around diesel) 
>>> Rough radius the sharp corners, sand the bottom flat and coat the whole 
>>> thing in epoxy.  Paint it white so you can see problems/mole later.     If 
>>> you need to close the hole, make a cover that laps the sides, much easier 
>>> than fitting a 'dutchman'. (Unless you enjoy that  sort of thing as I do).  
>>> I'd be tempted to leave the mouse hole open to allow it to drain and let 
>>> the air move.  My 33ii has several areas that would (and will) benefit from 
>>> greater air movement.   
>>> 
>>> Dave.
> 
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