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>   1. Re:  Dodger for 34+ (Dave Godwin)
>   2. Re:  Commercial Foul Weather Gear (Dave Godwin)
>   3. Re:  Dodger for 34+ (William Hall)
>   4. Re:  Commercial Foul Weather Gear (Edd Schillay)
>   5. Re:  Dodger for 34+ (Kevin Driscoll)
>   6. Re:  Dodger for 34+ (Tim Goodyear)
>   7. Re:  Dodger for 34+ (jtsails)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:37:12 -0400
> From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
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> Dave the OP, (lot of Dave/Davids in this post?),
> 
> Although not a 34+ owner, if you haven?t already thought about it, you may 
> wish to specify that the side panels be made using clear material like the 
> front of the dodger. This is how my dodger setup is and when the panels 
> (removable?) are in the visibility is pretty good. I?m not fond of the ?dark 
> cave? effect of many dodgers.
> 
> Best
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I will try to remember to take some pictures of mine this weekend.  I put it 
>> on when cruising and most of the time leave the frame up and the canvas off. 
>>  Even when I put on the canvas, I have never added the side panels, so I 
>> view them as dispensable.  The empty frame has the advantage of another 
>> thing to hold onto in the cockpit.  It has the disadvantage of something to 
>> hit your head on, especially when coming up from below with your head down.  
>> The bimini that came with mine (both were purchased by the PO) is pretty 
>> useless.  It does not come back far enough to cover the helm seat, so in 
>> rain it just runs onto your head and neck.  There is no frame for the 
>> bimini- it zips to the dodger and a bar in the back attaches to the 
>> backstay.  I would avoid that approach.  Dave
>> 
>> Dr. David Knecht
>> Professor of Molecular and Cell Biology
>> Core Microscopy Facility Director
>> University of Connecticut    
>> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
>> Storrs, CT 06269
>> 860-486-2200
>> 
>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:28 AM, davepulaski via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I'm having discussions with a canvas maker about fabricating a dodger 
>>> for my '90 34+, and I'd like to solicit some input from other 34+ owners 
>>> who have a dodger, and I'd really love to see some pictures! 
>>> 
>>> This will be a from-scratch build, as the boat never had a dodger.
>>> 
>>> Obviously I want it to be good looking and not detract too much from the 
>>> lines of the boat, but there are some functional challenges I can see with 
>>> putting a dodger on a 34+.
>>> 
>>> First, clearance for the big self-tailers on the corners of the cabin top.  
>>> Th canvas maker I'm speaking with expressed concern that the dodger side 
>>> panels and/or frame may interfer with full rotation of the winch handle. 
>>> 
>>> Second: how high above the companionway hatch is your dodger, and how much 
>>> does  it create awkward access in and out of the companionway?  This is 
>>> difficult for me to visualize, but I can see it being an issue because the 
>>> bridgedeck is so very long on these boats.  I don't want the dodger any 
>>> taller than absolutely necessary for aesthetic and visibility reasons.
>>> 
>>> Third, and this is the core purpose of me getting a dodger, how far back 
>>> does your dodger extend over the forward end of the cockpit?   This is my 
>>> #1 reason for getting a dodger because The Admiral needs a cozy,  SHADY 
>>> spot where she can sit facing backwards up against the cabin top bulkhead 
>>> and read a book while I toil away sailing the boat.   If the dodger stops 
>>> at the aft end of the cabin top,  it won't provide any shade to the cockpit 
>>> thus defeating the whole purpose.   Do you guys get any usable shade in the 
>>> front of the cockpit from your dodgers?  A bimini is out of the question;  
>>> not only do I absolutely hate biminis, but my travelers is in the cockpit 
>>> in front of the pedestal making a bimini pretty much impractical. 
>>> 
>>> I really want this done right... any input will be much appreciated! 
>>> 
>>> -Dave
>>> _______________________________________________
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> From: Dave Godwin <dave.god...@me.com>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Commercial Foul Weather Gear
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> ++ for the Musto.
> 
> I?ve had lots of FW gear over the years, all the way back to Patagonia?s 
> original offerings (who remembers those!?) and have settled on Musto for 
> comfort and dryness. Won?t go wrong with the purchase...
> 
> Best,
> Dave Godwin
> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Musto now and am impressed with them.
>> 
>> I also have a set of Musto offshore foul weather gear and have been very 
>> satisfied.  IIRC they are now nearing 20 years old with usage that includes 
>> 2 Hawaii crossings and 4 PNW to So Cal deliveries.  They still keep me dry 
>> and warm.  I have noticed some signs of age and wear but for my currently 
>> planned sailing I expect to get a few more years of use.  They are not made 
>> from the newer Gore-Tex type material but from old school nylon based 
>> materials with good dry suit type seals around the wrists and some fiber 
>> pile around the collar and in the hand sized pockets.  It seemed like a big 
>> investment at the time but given the long use and high level of comfort I 
>> plan on doing the same when replacing this set.
>> 
>> If you are planning some entertaining offshore sailing there is a thread 
>> over on Sailing Anarchy regarding foul weather gear layering for a voyage 
>> around Cape Horn.  The discussion focuses on how to use multiple Gore-Tex 
>> type layers for the best combo of letting moisture out while keeping 
>> spray/rain at bay.
>> 
>> Martin DeYoung
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> <image001.png>
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 8:00 AM
>> To: CnClist
>> Cc: Dennis C.
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Commercial Foul Weather Gear
>> 
>> My experience says foulies have a finite life.  I had high end Henri Lloyd 
>> offshore foulies that self destructed after 10 years or so.  I also had low 
>> end West Marines that blew up after a few years.
>> 
>> I have Musto now and am impressed with them.
>> 
>> I'm beginning to believe it doesn't matter what foulies you get, they're 
>> only going to last a few years, especially if you leave them on the boat.  I 
>> say go for them!
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> I have a Gill jacket that I am less than pleased with, the arms soak right 
>> through. I sprayed it with some waterproofing, but still not too happy with 
>> it.
>> 
>> Fisheries Supply is running a sale this week, does anyone have any 
>> experience with this brand?
>> Or maybe it would be too hard to be flexible in?
>> Altho, seems like the guys on Deadliest Catch have to move around a lot -
>> 
>> Grundens
>> 
>> Product Name: ?Gage Burning Daylight Hooded Jacket, Red/Black - Medium 
>> <http://www.fisheriessupply.com/grundens-gage-burning-daylight-hooded-jacket-bd300-red-m>
>> Sku# 389941 
>> <http://www.fisheriessupply.com/grundens-gage-burning-daylight-hooded-jacket-bd300-red-m>
>> Item ID  GRU BD300-RED-M
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Coleman
>> C&C 39 Erie
>> 
>> 
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> From: William Hall <wh...@alum.mit.edu>
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
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> Which side of your wife is her non-working side?
> 
> Sorry, that was off topic.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Whatever basic dodge design you use I have one recommendation that I will
>> implement in my Dodger 2.0.  Try to have the dodger to deck joint as
>> tight/water-resistant as possible.  When it is snotty outside its nice to
>> keep those aggressive seas on the working side of the dodger and not
>> hydraulically scoping out your wife on the non-working side
>> 
>> David F. Risch
>> 1981 40-2
>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:39:34 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> CC: dblair...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Dave I can take a few pics for you. My dodger is fairly functional
>> although I think it could have been extended back a few inches to increase
>> the shade. I would like to have a bimini but the length of the boom is
>> really going to limit the height and usefulness. To me a decent bimini
>> needs to stand on the pushpit to not crowd access around the binnacle. The
>> PO had a complete enclosure built but I have the aft hoops in the garage as
>> they restrict movement significantly.  It is sunny today and I was going
>> down to check things anyway, so will send from my iPhone if you can give me
>> a number to text them to.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ciao
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>> *davepulaski
>> via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:28 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* davepulaski
>> *Subject:* Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So I'm having discussions with a canvas maker about fabricating a dodger
>> for my '90 34+, and I'd like to solicit some input from other 34+ owners
>> who have a dodger, and I'd really love to see some pictures!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This will be a from-scratch build, as the boat never had a dodger.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Obviously I want it to be good looking and not detract too much from the
>> lines of the boat, but there are some functional challenges I can see with
>> putting a dodger on a 34+.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> First, clearance for the big self-tailers on the corners of the cabin
>> top.  Th canvas maker I'm speaking with expressed concern that the dodger
>> side panels and/or frame may interfer with full rotation of the winch
>> handle.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Second: how high above the companionway hatch is your dodger, and how much
>> does  it create awkward access in and out of the companionway?  This is
>> difficult for me to visualize, but I can see it being an issue because the
>> bridgedeck is so very long on these boats.  I don't want the dodger any
>> taller than absolutely necessary for aesthetic and visibility reasons.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Third, and this is the core purpose of me getting a dodger, how far back
>> does your dodger extend over the forward end of the cockpit?   This is my
>> #1 reason for getting a dodger because The Admiral needs a cozy,  SHADY
>> spot where she can sit facing backwards up against the cabin top bulkhead
>> and read a book while I toil away sailing the boat.   If the dodger stops
>> at the aft end of the cabin top,  it won't provide any shade to the cockpit
>> thus defeating the whole purpose.   Do you guys get any usable shade in the
>> front of the cockpit from your dodgers?  A bimini is out of the question;
>> not only do I absolutely hate biminis, but my travelers is in the cockpit
>> in front of the pedestal making a bimini pretty much impractical.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I really want this done right... any input will be much appreciated!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Dave
>> 
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> From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Commercial Foul Weather Gear
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> All,
> 
> I?m also a big fan of MUSTO. Never been warmer or dryer. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> Edd M. Schillay
> Starship Enterprise (Hauling out Friday)
> C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
> City Island, NY 
> Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ++ for the Musto.
>> 
>> I?ve had lots of FW gear over the years, all the way back to Patagonia?s 
>> original offerings (who remembers those!?) and have settled on Musto for 
>> comfort and dryness. Won?t go wrong with the purchase...
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>> Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>>>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have Musto now and am impressed with them.
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> From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: William Hall <wh...@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
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> Here is a different approach, ie. DIY hard dodger. It is very intriguing to
> me as the stitches begin to dissolve on our dodger though I would prefer to
> use an FRP panel over Starboard...
> 
> http://www.bwsailing.com/bw/cruising-news/roger-dodger/
> 
> btw @ James Delaney, the picture of that outboard powered jet ski at the
> mooring is excellent!
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM William Hall via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Which side of your wife is her non-working side?
>> 
>> Sorry, that was off topic.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Whatever basic dodge design you use I have one recommendation that I will
>>> implement in my Dodger 2.0.  Try to have the dodger to deck joint as
>>> tight/water-resistant as possible.  When it is snotty outside its nice to
>>> keep those aggressive seas on the working side of the dodger and not
>>> hydraulically scoping out your wife on the non-working side
>>> 
>>> David F. Risch
>>> 1981 40-2
>>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:39:34 -0700
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> CC: dblair...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Dave I can take a few pics for you. My dodger is fairly functional
>>> although I think it could have been extended back a few inches to increase
>>> the shade. I would like to have a bimini but the length of the boom is
>>> really going to limit the height and usefulness. To me a decent bimini
>>> needs to stand on the pushpit to not crowd access around the binnacle. The
>>> PO had a complete enclosure built but I have the aft hoops in the garage as
>>> they restrict movement significantly.  It is sunny today and I was going
>>> down to check things anyway, so will send from my iPhone if you can give me
>>> a number to text them to.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ciao
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
>>> *davepulaski
>>> via CnC-List
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:28 AM
>>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> *Cc:* davepulaski
>>> *Subject:* Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So I'm having discussions with a canvas maker about fabricating a dodger
>>> for my '90 34+, and I'd like to solicit some input from other 34+ owners
>>> who have a dodger, and I'd really love to see some pictures!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This will be a from-scratch build, as the boat never had a dodger.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Obviously I want it to be good looking and not detract too much from the
>>> lines of the boat, but there are some functional challenges I can see with
>>> putting a dodger on a 34+.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> First, clearance for the big self-tailers on the corners of the cabin
>>> top.  Th canvas maker I'm speaking with expressed concern that the dodger
>>> side panels and/or frame may interfer with full rotation of the winch
>>> handle.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Second: how high above the companionway hatch is your dodger, and how
>>> much does  it create awkward access in and out of the companionway?  This
>>> is difficult for me to visualize, but I can see it being an issue because
>>> the bridgedeck is so very long on these boats.  I don't want the dodger any
>>> taller than absolutely necessary for aesthetic and visibility reasons.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Third, and this is the core purpose of me getting a dodger, how far back
>>> does your dodger extend over the forward end of the cockpit?   This is my
>>> #1 reason for getting a dodger because The Admiral needs a cozy,  SHADY
>>> spot where she can sit facing backwards up against the cabin top bulkhead
>>> and read a book while I toil away sailing the boat.   If the dodger stops
>>> at the aft end of the cabin top,  it won't provide any shade to the cockpit
>>> thus defeating the whole purpose.   Do you guys get any usable shade in the
>>> front of the cockpit from your dodgers?  A bimini is out of the question;
>>> not only do I absolutely hate biminis, but my travelers is in the cockpit
>>> in front of the pedestal making a bimini pretty much impractical.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really want this done right... any input will be much appreciated!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Dave
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________ Email address:
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>> Bill
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> From: Tim Goodyear <timg...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com>, William Hall
>    <wh...@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
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> Edd, there is an article on this in the October (latest) edition of cruising 
> world using FRP panels from Home Depot.  It looks easier than starboard.
> 
> Tim
> Branford, CT
> 
>> On Oct 14, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is a different approach, ie. DIY hard dodger. It is very intriguing to 
>> me as the stitches begin to dissolve on our dodger though I would prefer to 
>> use an FRP panel over Starboard...
>> 
>> http://www.bwsailing.com/bw/cruising-news/roger-dodger/
>> 
>> btw @ James Delaney, the picture of that outboard powered jet ski at the 
>> mooring is excellent!
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM William Hall via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> Which side of your wife is her non-working side?
>>> 
>>> Sorry, that was off topic.
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, David via CnC-List 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> Whatever basic dodge design you use I have one recommendation that I will 
>>>> implement in my Dodger 2.0.  Try to have the dodger to deck joint as 
>>>> tight/water-resistant as possible.  When it is snotty outside its nice to 
>>>> keep those aggressive seas on the working side of the dodger and not 
>>>> hydraulically scoping out your wife on the non-working side
>>>> 
>>>> David F. Risch
>>>> 1981 40-2
>>>> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:39:34 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>>>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> CC: dblair...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> Dave I can take a few pics for you. My dodger is fairly functional 
>>>> although I think it could have been extended back a few inches to increase 
>>>> the shade. I would like to have a bimini but the length of the boom is 
>>>> really going to limit the height and usefulness. To me a decent bimini 
>>>> needs to stand on the pushpit to not crowd access around the binnacle. The 
>>>> PO had a complete enclosure built but I have the aft hoops in the garage 
>>>> as they restrict movement significantly.  It is sunny today and I was 
>>>> going down to check things anyway, so will send from my iPhone if you can 
>>>> give me a number to text them to.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ciao
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> davepulaski via CnC-List
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:28 AM
>>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> Cc: davepulaski
>>>> Subject: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So I'm having discussions with a canvas maker about fabricating a dodger 
>>>> for my '90 34+, and I'd like to solicit some input from other 34+ owners 
>>>> who have a dodger, and I'd really love to see some pictures! 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> This will be a from-scratch build, as the boat never had a dodger.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Obviously I want it to be good looking and not detract too much from the 
>>>> lines of the boat, but there are some functional challenges I can see with 
>>>> putting a dodger on a 34+.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> First, clearance for the big self-tailers on the corners of the cabin top. 
>>>>  Th canvas maker I'm speaking with expressed concern that the dodger side 
>>>> panels and/or frame may interfer with full rotation of the winch handle. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Second: how high above the companionway hatch is your dodger, and how much 
>>>> does  it create awkward access in and out of the companionway?  This is 
>>>> difficult for me to visualize, but I can see it being an issue because the 
>>>> bridgedeck is so very long on these boats.  I don't want the dodger any 
>>>> taller than absolutely necessary for aesthetic and visibility reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Third, and this is the core purpose of me getting a dodger, how far back 
>>>> does your dodger extend over the forward end of the cockpit?   This is my 
>>>> #1 reason for getting a dodger because The Admiral needs a cozy,  SHADY 
>>>> spot where she can sit facing backwards up against the cabin top bulkhead 
>>>> and read a book while I toil away sailing the boat.   If the dodger stops 
>>>> at the aft end of the cabin top,  it won't provide any shade to the 
>>>> cockpit thus defeating the whole purpose.   Do you guys get any usable 
>>>> shade in the front of the cockpit from your dodgers?  A bimini is out of 
>>>> the question;  not only do I absolutely hate biminis, but my travelers is 
>>>> in the cockpit in front of the pedestal making a bimini pretty much 
>>>> impractical. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I really want this done right... any input will be much appreciated! 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Dave
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> From: "jtsails" <jtsai...@gmail.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
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> Kevin, I spotted that Jet Ski at Great Guana Key in the Abacos this summer 
> and had to take a pic of it! I have no idea how he rigged up steering cables 
> or the throttle but it looked hilarious! The mud bank it was sitting on 
> wasn?t something I wanted to slog through and the water was too shallow for 
> the dinghy so I didn?t get a close up look.
> James
> Delaney
> 1976 C&C 38
> Oriental, NC
> 
> From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:58 PM
> To: cnc-list 
> Cc: Kevin Driscoll ; William Hall 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
> 
> Here is a different approach, ie. DIY hard dodger. It is very intriguing to 
> me as the stitches begin to dissolve on our dodger though I would prefer to 
> use an FRP panel over Starboard... 
> 
> http://www.bwsailing.com/bw/cruising-news/roger-dodger/
> 
> 
> btw @ James Delaney, the picture of that outboard powered jet ski at the 
> mooring is excellent!
> 
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:47 AM William Hall via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>  Which side of your wife is her non-working side? 
> 
>  Sorry, that was off topic.
> 
>  On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:55 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>    Whatever basic dodge design you use I have one recommendation that I will 
> implement in my Dodger 2.0.  Try to have the dodger to deck joint as 
> tight/water-resistant as possible.  When it is snotty outside its nice to 
> keep those aggressive seas on the working side of the dodger and not 
> hydraulically scoping out your wife on the non-working side
> 
>    David F. Risch
>    1981 40-2
>    (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>    Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:39:34 -0700
>    Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>    From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>    CC: dblair...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>    Dave I can take a few pics for you. My dodger is fairly functional 
> although I think it could have been extended back a few inches to increase 
> the shade. I would like to have a bimini but the length of the boom is really 
> going to limit the height and usefulness. To me a decent bimini needs to 
> stand on the pushpit to not crowd access around the binnacle. The PO had a 
> complete enclosure built but I have the aft hoops in the garage as they 
> restrict movement significantly.  It is sunny today and I was going down to 
> check things anyway, so will send from my iPhone if you can give me a number 
> to text them to. 
> 
> 
> 
>    Ciao
> 
> 
> 
>    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of 
> davepulaski via CnC-List
>    Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 1:28 AM
>    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>    Cc: davepulaski
>    Subject: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
> 
> 
> 
>    So I'm having discussions with a canvas maker about fabricating a dodger 
> for my '90 34+, and I'd like to solicit some input from other 34+ owners who 
> have a dodger, and I'd really love to see some pictures! 
> 
> 
> 
>    This will be a from-scratch build, as the boat never had a dodger.
> 
> 
> 
>    Obviously I want it to be good looking and not detract too much from the 
> lines of the boat, but there are some functional challenges I can see with 
> putting a dodger on a 34+.
> 
> 
> 
>    First, clearance for the big self-tailers on the corners of the cabin top. 
>  Th canvas maker I'm speaking with expressed concern that the dodger side 
> panels and/or frame may interfer with full rotation of the winch handle. 
> 
> 
> 
>    Second: how high above the companionway hatch is your dodger, and how much 
> does  it create awkward access in and out of the companionway?  This is 
> difficult for me to visualize, but I can see it being an issue because the 
> bridgedeck is so very long on these boats.  I don't want the dodger any 
> taller than absolutely necessary for aesthetic and visibility reasons.
> 
> 
> 
>    Third, and this is the core purpose of me getting a dodger, how far back 
> does your dodger extend over the forward end of the cockpit?   This is my #1 
> reason for getting a dodger because The Admiral needs a cozy,  SHADY spot 
> where she can sit facing backwards up against the cabin top bulkhead and read 
> a book while I toil away sailing the boat.   If the dodger stops at the aft 
> end of the cabin top,  it won't provide any shade to the cockpit thus 
> defeating the whole purpose.   Do you guys get any usable shade in the front 
> of the cockpit from your dodgers?  A bimini is out of the question;  not only 
> do I absolutely hate biminis, but my travelers is in the cockpit in front of 
> the pedestal making a bimini pretty much impractical. 
> 
> 
> 
>    I really want this done right... any input will be much appreciated! 
> 
> 
> 
>    -Dave
> 
> 
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