It is not going to ever run on 12 volts. You would have to find 12 volt heating 
elements that were 1800 watts, which I am 99.99999% sure do not exist. The 
power wire to run this would be like 2/0 gauge as well, which is VERY expensive 
wire.
BTW – this thing is going to be an extreme torture test of your batteries, 
inverter, alternator, and wiring. I am not sure this is going to be a good idea.
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I


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Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot water tank


I did some rough math and it looks like you'll need ~38Ahrs of power for a 15 
minute shower.  Your inverter will be drawing 150amps through the supply wires 
and your alternator would have to recharge that amount.  With the stock 
alternator (35amps) it would take over and hour.  I do think I remember you 
having an upgraded alternator.  Of course the assumption was that the hot water 
was at full flow for the 15 minute duration.

The instant waterheater is just a resistive load.  It would be more efficient 
and possibly safer to eliminate the inverter from the picture.  It would take 
some electrical and electronics skills to re-engineer the unit to run on 12v 
instead of 120v.

That new water heater really is shockingly smaller.  You'll have to let us know 
how it turns out.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 31, 2015 10:15 AM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
My hot water tank was failing as well and I’m in the middle of putting in a 
replacement — the hard part was getting the old one out of the tight space 
under the galley.

I decided to go with an on-demand water heater which will either be powered by 
shore power or an inverter (2000W) while the engine is running. Here’s the one 
I picked: 
http://m.rakuten.com/product/263816304?listingid=337903396&adid=29963&sclid=pla_google_Zoro

And here is old and new side-by-side: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15162917/ENTERPRISE/heaters.jpg

I’ll try to finish it up over the next couple of weeks, but if not, it’ll be a 
quick winter project.


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log<http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>



On Aug 30, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


In most of the little hot water tanks the anode is part of the hot water outlet 
nipple.  Follow the link for pictures of the tank rebuild I did.

https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ydEpoMU1MWmx6Qms/edit

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 30, 2015 10:26 AM, "phorvati . via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

And make sure you have zinc anodes.  Electrolysis will eat something.
On Aug 29, 2015 8:51 PM, "Jim Watts via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Put a meter on it and read what kind of voltage you are getting. 110V AC does 
not generally give little shocks.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 29 August 2015 at 16:15, Michael Crombie via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

I'm working my way down my project list and finally got to my hot water tank.  
The PO just told me that it didn't work.  I was getting 120V at the heating 
element so I checked the element and it was fried.

I installed a new element and turned it on for a test. Got hot water after 
about 10 min, so I went to close everything up. But when I was doing that I 
touched the pressure relief valve and got a small shock.

The green ground wire runs to one of the mouting bolts on the heating element 
and also to the water tank frame. So that seems ok. I also checked for 
continuity between the hot and neutral wires and the relief valve or frame and 
got none.

So i'm puzzled. The shock wasn't big, but i definitely felt something. Any 
ideas???

Thanks,

Mike
Atacama 33 mk ii
Toronto
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