It is almost impossible to leave negative feedback about any eBay purchase no matter how egregious the transaction. You simply won’t be allowed do it. Many frustrated buyers simply “plea-bargain” for Neutral so they can “move on”.
I bought a How-To manual for a computer game once and only the package that it was packed in arrived. The manila envelope had been reused from a previous purchase and resealed with what appeared to be pancake syrup (or KY). The seller begged me, “in the name of Our Lord Jesus”, not to give him/her neutral feedback. BAH! Having said all that, I actually bought my C&C 27 on eBay and love it. Now, if I can only stop the rain from leaking under the toe rails. The Westerbeke had to have a crack welded too. Oh, and the balsa has to be replaced where the roof was cracked; cosmetic stuff, really. Steve Staten “C’est La Vie” C&C 27 Langley, OK From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 4:22 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Patrick Davin Subject: Re: Stus-List 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay The great thing about the Internet is that scammers like this can run but they can't hide. You can find a lot about someone if you know how to look and they don't cover their tracks perfectly. In this case the weak point is his phone number, which is basically a unique search key. Tracing that it appears that he's a sailboat flipper of sorts. I found a previous ad with *identical* text in places (the ALL CAPS stuff about please be an informed bidder, 24 hours deposit required, etc). He listed this Morgan Out Island 36 earlier this year, in Florida: http://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLY-SPACIOUS-GLOBAL-CRUISER-by-famous-yacht-maker-No-Reserve-Aft-Cabin-/201335429823 Someone on cruisersforum noticed it, but there was no commentary on it (last post here): http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/ebay-sailboat-scam-143861-2.html Also a Cal 34 in Virginia which sold for $6.3k: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LAPWORTH-JENSEN-WORLD-CRUISER-For-Pennies-on-The-Dollar-NO-RESERVE-Xlnt-4-Couple-/201314971076 He has a neutral ebay review from a year+ ago which said: "caveat emptor. Boat was not "ready to put in the water and sail"" for a listing of "SERIOUS BLUE WATER OCEAN CRUISER No Res - New York City (#200361465706)" which sold for $1425. Oh and he flips motor boats too: http://www.boats4sale.pro/detail/us/OHnFCCdmndHnCeFCPHd/Rare-Opportunity-to-Own-a-20K-to-30K-SPORTS-CRUISER-w The Morgan OI listing has surprisingly extensive dialogue from him. So at least he's a good writer and seller of the cruising dream. Lots of gems in here which make me laugh: "Every boat is a project boat. However, some boats are more project than boat. " "Buying a boat like this Out Island is for someone who wants to get to know their vessel like a cowboy knows his horse and saddle and six gun or like a surgeon knows the tools and machines in the surgery room." "We adopt stray boats. We already have our own cruising sailboat and we don't need another for ourselves, but from experience and in our early cruising days before we were spending half our year directly in boat yards and marinas and exotic ports, we know how hard it is to find truly worth blue-water cruisers that can be purchased on a normal middle-class income. We are relatively young folks ourselves, and part of our passion is helping other young couples and families and middle class retired folks afford the cruising life-style. " "To purchase a boat where every single thing is already as it should be, would be a dis-service to the active sailor because it prevents you from getting to know how everything on your boat is set up and how it works." I don't know if the Morgan OI sale was a scam, in the way that the LF38 listing is clearly a scam (since the salvage is not disclosed). It appears he actually knows his stuff, or at least enough to quote much of Nigel Calder and cruisersforum. But there's certainly a lot of spin and marketing in there! -Patrick On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:24 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com>> wrote: From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: August-21-15 17:11 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Danny Haughey Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - 1983 38 Landfall on Ebay you know the weird thing is that the Yacht Salvage ad still seems active and this guys ebay feedback goes back to 2001 with 100% positive... Danny
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