Steven, Thats an awful story.  I'm so sorry for your loss and the trouble you 
had just trying to do a good thing... These people refuse to take individual 
circumstances into account... Danny

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From: Steve Staten via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Steve Staten <steve-sta...@cherokee.org>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 17:40:05 -0500


I have a Google story:
 
My younger brother worked in shipyards all over the world. He fell at the one 
in Korea that is on an island off the eastern coast and ruptured his spleen. He 
came back to the US to recover and, instead, died in a motel in Texas. I was 
named administrator of his estate. Because his first ex-wife looted his motel 
room and storage unit, I had no idea of his friends, co-workers, professional 
contacts or the many girlfriends and children that he claimed to have scattered 
over the globe. 
 
I only knew of one bank account (the local one). I needed info on all his 
financial resources so I could get them to my brother&rsquo;s two legitimate 
children by his second ex-wife. The only possible source that might provide 
some answers was his GMail account. So, I contacted Google for access to it and 
they demanded all sorts of documents as you would expect; death certificates, 
court documents, my ID, etc. After &ldquo;jumping through all their 
hoops&rdquo;, they denied my request and said that I could not appeal it.  
Their rationale was simply, &ldquo;We value our customer&rsquo;s 
privacy.&rdquo; This is the value of human beings in a post-capitalist 
corporate economy. I hope all of Google&rsquo;s management die anonymously as 
my brother did to the people that knew him. 
 
Share or document your passwords so the folks who have to clean up after you 
can do just that. Above all, get a will.
 
Steve Staten
&ldquo;C&rsquo; Est La Vie&rdquo;
C&C 27
Langley, OK
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek 
Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:34 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Marek Dziedzic
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
 
I hope you don&rsquo;t think that Apple (or Google, for that matter) is not 
collecting very similar information....
 
From: S Thomas via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:16 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: S Thomas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
 
Sounds like Microsoft and the NSA are dancing the same waltz.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:22
Subject: Re: Stus-List Off topic Windows 10
 
Or this,
 
More than 14 million devices are already running Microsoft&rsquo;s Windows 10 
after its global launch on Wednesday, but it&rsquo;s unclear how many of their 
users read the company&rsquo;s Privacy Policy and Service Agreement before 
downloading. Tucked away in the 45 pages&rsquo; worth of terms and conditions 
(effective August 1) is a substantial power grab: The company is collecting 
data on much of what you do while using its new software.
>From the moment an account is created, Microsoft begins watching. The company 
>saves customers&rsquo; basic information&mdash;name, contact details, 
>passwords, demographic data and credit card specifics &mdash;but it also digs 
>a bit deeper.
Other information Microsoft saves includes Bing search queries and 
conversations with the new digital personal assistant Cortana; contents of 
private communications such as email; websites and apps visited (including 
features accessed and length of time used); and contents of private folders. 
Furthermore, &ldquo;your typed and handwritten words are collected,&rdquo; the 
Privacy Statement says, which many online observers liken to a keylogger. 
Microsoft says they collect the information &ldquo;to provide you a 
personalized user dictionary, help you type and write on your device with 
better character recognition, and provide you with text suggestions as you type 
or write.&rdquo;
All this information doesn&rsquo;t necessarily remain with just Microsoft. The 
company says it uses the data collected for three purposes: to provide and 
improve its services; to send customers personalized promotions; and to display 
targeted advertising, which sometimes requires the information be shared with 
third parties. Microsoft mentions that though it assigns each customer a unique 
advertising ID, which is fed data during computer usage, it &ldquo;does not use 
what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, 
photos or other personal files to target ads to you.&rdquo; It makes no such 
promise for its other stated data collection purposes.
 
Bill Coleman
 
 
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