Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change

Thu, 02 Jul 2015 09:06:13 -0700 

Roundup is water soluble.

Bill Bina

On 7/2/2015 11:48 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote:

hey Kevin,
I'm skeptical that Roundup addition to bottom paint will work. I've been lead to believe that Roundup needs to be applied to green leafy plants that are in the growing stage. 

If you think it works, what kind of proportions are we looking at?

Cheers, Russ
/Sweet /35 mk-1



At 07:36 AM 01/07/2015, you wrote:
Anybody dumping Roundup in to their bottom paint and the waters in which we sail should be taken out to the barn and shot. Dumping a witches brew of anti biotics into these same waters is similarly ignorant IMO. Complain about the EPA all you like, but someone needs to take on the unenviable task of protecting the rest of us and our sailing waters from the ill informed and questionably intentioned. My 2 cents. 

Kevin
30-2
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015, 7:10 AMÂ Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: 


    I totally concur..

    You want the stuff to perform as designed.. You apply it as
    prescribed.  If the tetracycline was as effective as claimed, it
    would be in the paint from the factory. Â

    BTW, My burnished Trinidad Pro is still pristine (I check it
    regularly when we swim) after being constantly in the water 1.5
    years. It's not real long yet but that is 1.5 years continuous.Â
    My competition scrubs their VC-17 bottom every week, I scrub it
    never yet we're fast enough to consistently show-up on the podium
    despite our inexperienced team's frequent mistakes and my old
    bedsheet sails. :-)

    -Francois
    1990 34+ "Take Five"
    Lake Lanier, GA Â



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    I think any drug like " tetracycline" will kill lots of germs and
    bacteria but will dissolve so fast in water, it will be gone in a
    few days. I wouldn't add anything to bottom paint for fear of
    jeopardizing the adhesion and slow release of it's own toxins.
    I've heard of people mixing in "Round Up" and I've heard the same
    people complain that their paint flaked off during haulout. I ask
    them if they sanded with 80 grit paper before painting as
    directed, and can tell by their confused expression, they never
    read the directions.

    I respect the guys who write the application instructions, follow
    those as close as I can and I've enjoyed great success.

    I understand your frustration with VC-17. I used VC-Offshore for
    8 years and got fed up with the fouling. Had to clean the bottom
    each week to stay ahead of it. Used a piece of carpet and
    sometimes a 3M pad. Switched to a better paint, Micron 66, and
    love it. Kept the boat in all winter and the fouling looked
    pretty bad this May. All the boats in y marina had a fur attached
    to their hulls. I was surprised how easy it came off easily with
    a soft deck brush, and very little pressure. Micron 66 is
    designed for Salt Water and Fresh Water requires "Micron Extra" I
    think. Both can be burnished, but the paint goes on very smooth
    as is, and by design gets smoother as it ablates. They are multi
    season hard abatives.

    Chuck
    Resolute
    1990 C&C 34R
    Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

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    François Rivard 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw

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