Thanks all for the anchor advice. 
Much appreciated. 

Joe

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>   3. Re:  Anchor Size (Knowles Rich)
>   4.  ST6002 replacement parts (Hoyt, Mike)
>   5. Re:  New Electrical System is Installed -- Thank    YouListers!
>      (Robbie Epstein)
>   6. Re:  Anchor Size (dwight veinot)
>   7. Re:  Edson Pedestal (PME)
>   8. Re:  ST6002 replacement parts (Knowles Rich)
>   9. Re:  ST6002 replacement parts (Hoyt, Mike)
>  10. Re:  ST6002 replacement parts (Knowles Rich)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:04:54 -0700
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor Size
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> Hi Joe,
> 
> The 35 lb'der will be okay as a "lunch hook", occasional, or whatever 
> you want to call. It can even be considered big for that service.
> 
> Serious cruising where you have many more nights/year on the hook and 
> very little discretion on when to stay overnight at anchor means a 
> minimum 45# is in order. More chain helps too and getting the hook 
> down before Happy Hour is better.
> 
> On the 35 footer, I've been summer cruising with a "temporary" 22# 
> Delta plow and 10 fathoms of chain for 5 years now. I've got an 
> appropriate 33# Bruce Lee once I get my bow roller & winch installed. :)
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> 
> At 06:53 PM 31/05/2015, you wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> What size anchor do I need for my 38?  I want to put a plow anchor 
>> on a roller and found a 35lb one locally for $50. Found a chart on 
>> the photo album that says that would be more than enough but that 
>> chart seems to be the exception.  We are in Lake Erie and our only 
>> real use would be for an afternoon of swimming and occasional 
>> overnight in a very protected bay.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
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> 
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> 
> 
>    Joe, on Pegasus I use a 45 pound CQR with 125ft of 3/8 chain. Never worry 
> about dragging. Thank god for my windlass.?
> Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.    
> 
> 
> ------ Original message------From: Joseph Scott via CnC-List Date: Sun, May 
> 31, 2015 18:53To: CnClist;Cc: Joseph Scott;Subject:Stus-List Anchor 
> SizeHello,What size anchor do I need for my 38?  I want to put a plow anchor 
> on a roller and found a 35lb one locally for $50. Found a chart on the photo 
> album that says that would be more than enough but that chart seems to be the 
> exception.  We are in Lake Erie and our only real use would be for an 
> afternoon of swimming and occasional overnight in a very protected bay. 
> ThanksJoeSent from my 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:09:22 -0700
> From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca>
> To: cnc-list Cnc-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor Size
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> Joe, for what you describe you are planning on doing, that anchor should do 
> just fine. If you think you may be possibly caught needing more secure 
> footing, there are several recently introduced anchors that may serve you 
> better; Rocna etc, but at considerably more cost. As others are pointing out, 
> more weight means more security and the more chain in the rode, the better 
> the anchor will perform.
> 
> You might also consider installing a windlass as, unless you are a built like 
> a windlass, manually hauling bigger anchors and more chain can be a real slog.
> 
> I used a 15 kg. Bruce with 150? of 5/16? chain backed by 200? of ?? nylon 
> rode with a Lofrans windlass on my LF38 for the 17 years I owned her and 
> never had a problem.
> 
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Nanaimo, BC
> INDIGO LF38
> Boatless!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 22:04, Russ & Melody via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What size anchor do I need for my 38?  I want to put a plow anchor on a 
>> roller and found a 35lb one locally for $50. Found a chart on the photo 
>> album that says that would be more than enough but that chart seems to be 
>> the exception.  We are in Lake Erie and our only real use would be for an 
>> afternoon of swimming and occasional overnight in a very protected bay. 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:51:39 +0000
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
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> http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544
> 
> Over the weekend we raced in 20-25 TWS and managed to break only one thing.  
> Our raymarine ST6002 wheel pilot.  Although not in use something managed to 
> catch on it (possibly a foot) and the grey ring on the wheel came apart with 
> the usual bang and ball bearings flying that accompany breakage.
> 
> The attached link seems to be a parts diagram for this or a similar unit. 
> Part 11 the ?drive ring? has a portion broken off as well as part 10 ?bearing 
> cage? which we found in pieces.  We may have salvaged all of the stainless 
> bearings but not certain.  Anyone know where to find replacement parts and 
> how many bearings there are supposed to be? (21 in this diagram but not sure 
> if that is for ST6002)
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 09:18:10 -0400
> From: Robbie Epstein <repst...@embarqmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List New Electrical System is Installed -- Thank
>    YouListers!
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> Yes, always contain the smoke.  Things always tend to stop working when you 
> let the smoke out!
> 
> Robbie Epstein
> C&C 40-2
> Thorfinn
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 9:02 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> 
>> Re: Stus-List New Electrical System is Installed -- Thank
>>   YouListers!
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 11:24:03 -0300
> From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Anchor Size
> Message-ID:
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> 
> and pay attention to how you set the anchor...I mean back off hard on it to
> make sure it is set well and if you can use at least 7 to 1 rode to
> depth...I use a 15KG Bruce style knock off with about 40 feet of 5/16 high
> tensile chain as my main hook and I carry my 35 lb CQR and a large Danforth
> complete with rodes under the vee berth as spare...I have had very good
> experiences on the Bruce style anchor...a lot depends on the type of bottom
> and the set as far as holding power goes
> 
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 3:09 AM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Joe, for what you describe you are planning on doing, that anchor should
>> do just fine. If you think you may be possibly caught needing more secure
>> footing, there are several recently introduced anchors that may serve you
>> better; Rocna etc, but at considerably more cost. As others are pointing
>> out, more weight means more security and the more chain in the rode, the
>> better the anchor will perform.
>> 
>> You might also consider installing a windlass as, unless you are a built
>> like a windlass, manually hauling bigger anchors and more chain can be a
>> real slog.
>> 
>> I used a 15 kg. Bruce with 150? of 5/16? chain backed by 200? of ?? nylon
>> rode with a Lofrans windlass on my LF38 for the 17 years I owned her and
>> never had a problem.
>> 
>> 
>> Rich Knowles
>> Nanaimo, BC
>> INDIGO LF38
>> Boatless!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2015, at 22:04, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What size anchor do I need for my 38?  I want to put a plow anchor on a
>> roller and found a 35lb one locally for $50. Found a chart on the photo
>> album that says that would be more than enough but that chart seems to be
>> the exception.  We are in Lake Erie and our only real use would be for an
>> afternoon of swimming and occasional overnight in a very protected bay.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 10:37:36 -0400
> From: PME <dre...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Pedestal
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> Hi,
> 
> Below is a post from last May on relining Edson brake pads.
> 
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C Landfall 38
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
> 
> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: PME <dre...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Edson Wheel Brake & Relining Brakes
>> Date: May 22, 2014 at 1:40:06 PM EDT
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> 
>> Rob,
>> 
>> I just removed the Edson brakes and steering cables/chain from my steering 
>> system this past Sunday.   And it was near exactly as described by Graham.  
>> The hardest part was removing the seized flathead screws.  With a little PB 
>> Blaster, some perseverance, and a lot of hammer-twisting on an old hand 
>> impact driver (like the one at  http://tinyurl.com/q823uja 
>> <http://tinyurl.com/q823uja> ) I was able to get the screws out.   I will 
>> surely use never-seize putting the screws back in.  This little impact 
>> driver has saved me on several occasions.
>> 
>> The removal of the brakes took just a few minutes at this point.  To add to 
>> Graham's comments, there is a special-sized washer on the brake shaft toward 
>> the knob side of the last brake pad.  This washer is critical in making the 
>> brakes work.   It turns out this washer was missing on my brake system, and 
>> that my brake pads are fine.  Try not to lose this washer or be very 
>> cautious when installing a replacement.  I called Edson trying to buy the 
>> little washer, but they insisted on sending a few washers out to me for 
>> free.  As many have suggested, stuff rags down the pedestal, but I plan to 
>> tie dental floss on this bugger to aid in its installation too. 
>> 
>> As for brake replacements, the kits go for about $77 online(Defender).  I 
>> have read online of folks relining these pads.   Edson even sells a relining 
>> kit but it costs about the same ($80 Jamestown Distributers).     
>> 
>> Following the success of other, I planned on relining the pads myself.  As 
>> it looks I will only need the washer, but if the pads do need replacing in 
>> the future I surely reline them myself.  It Looks like fun and for less than 
>> $10 one could reline several sets(help out a buddy).   For completeness I 
>> included material list and Edson's instructions below.      
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Materials
>>    - McMaster-Carr  brake liner metal-free  3/16"T      1-1/4"W      
>> 6175K812    $3.91/ft
>>        http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=s2sqod 
>> <http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=s2sqod>
>>    - Loctite Black Max Adhesive (or epoxy)
>> 
>> Brake Lining Replacement Instructions (from Edson EB355_689BrakeInstall.PDF)
>>    1. Remove old brake pads. Clean legs with solvent.
>>    2. Bond new pads to brake legs with generous amounts of
>>        supplied adhesive or two-part epoxy.
>>    3. Clamp brake legs around a pipe approximately 1 1/2" in
>>        diameter while the adhesive cures so that the new pads conform
>>        to the shape of the legs.
>>    4. After adhesive has cured, trim brake pads along edges of
>>        brake leges with a band saw or hack saw.
>>    5. Reinstall brake components as described inside and check
>>        operation before installing cotter pin.
>>    6. If brake does not clamp properly, check that washer has been
>>        installed between shaft shoulder and A743 starboard brake leg.
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:04:32 -0700
> From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca>
> To: cnc-list Cnc-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
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> Mike:
> 
> Binnacle can get that stuff for you or you can go direct to CMC, or whatever 
> they call themselves these days, the Raymarine reps in Burnside. 902-468-8480.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Nanaimo, BC
> INDIGO LF38
> Boatless!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 05:51, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544 
> <http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544>
> 
> Over the weekend we raced in 20-25 TWS and managed to break only one thing.  
> Our raymarine ST6002 wheel pilot.  Although not in use something managed to 
> catch on it (possibly a foot) and the grey ring on the wheel came apart with 
> the usual bang and ball bearings flying that accompany breakage. 
> 
> The attached link seems to be a parts diagram for this or a similar unit. 
> Part 11 the ?drive ring? has a portion broken off as well as part 10 ?bearing 
> cage? which we found in pieces.  We may have salvaged all of the stainless 
> bearings but not certain.  Anyone know where to find replacement parts and 
> how many bearings there are supposed to be? (21 in this diagram but not sure 
> if that is for ST6002)
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 15:06:29 +0000
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Thanks Rich
> 
> Have contacted CMC
> 
> Indigo is in the water right across from Persistence
> 
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles 
> Rich via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:05 PM
> To: cnc-list Cnc-List
> Cc: Knowles Rich
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
> 
> Mike:
> 
> Binnacle can get that stuff for you or you can go direct to CMC, or whatever 
> they call themselves these days, the Raymarine reps in Burnside. 902-468-8480.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Nanaimo, BC
> INDIGO LF38
> Boatless!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 05:51, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544
> 
> Over the weekend we raced in 20-25 TWS and managed to break only one thing.  
> Our raymarine ST6002 wheel pilot.  Although not in use something managed to 
> catch on it (possibly a foot) and the grey ring on the wheel came apart with 
> the usual bang and ball bearings flying that accompany breakage.
> 
> The attached link seems to be a parts diagram for this or a similar unit. 
> Part 11 the ?drive ring? has a portion broken off as well as part 10 ?bearing 
> cage? which we found in pieces.  We may have salvaged all of the stainless 
> bearings but not certain.  Anyone know where to find replacement parts and 
> how many bearings there are supposed to be? (21 in this diagram but not sure 
> if that is for ST6002)
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:10:11 -0700
> From: Knowles Rich <r...@sailpower.ca>
> To: cnc-list Cnc-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
> Message-ID: <c76d6049-80bf-4c52-b065-8d508a5b7...@sailpower.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> She?s been in that slip since 1997. Say hi to Barry Clarke, the new owner and 
> get him on the chat group. He?s a good guy and a great doctor. Kept me alive 
> for years, much to everyone?s annoyance.
> 
> Rich 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 08:06, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rich
> 
> Have contacted CMC
> 
> Indigo is in the water right across from Persistence
> 
> Mike
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich via CnC-List
> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 12:05 PM
> To: cnc-list Cnc-List
> Cc: Knowles Rich
> Subject: Re: Stus-List ST6002 replacement parts
> 
> Mike:
> 
> Binnacle can get that stuff for you or you can go direct to CMC, or whatever 
> they call themselves these days, the Raymarine reps in Burnside. 902-468-8480.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Rich Knowles
> Nanaimo, BC
> INDIGO LF38
> Boatless!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 1, 2015, at 05:51, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544 
> <http://hudsonmarine.co.uk/index.php?module_display=41&pid=142544>
> 
> Over the weekend we raced in 20-25 TWS and managed to break only one thing.  
> Our raymarine ST6002 wheel pilot.  Although not in use something managed to 
> catch on it (possibly a foot) and the grey ring on the wheel came apart with 
> the usual bang and ball bearings flying that accompany breakage. 
> 
> The attached link seems to be a parts diagram for this or a similar unit. 
> Part 11 the ?drive ring? has a portion broken off as well as part 10 ?bearing 
> cage? which we found in pieces.  We may have salvaged all of the stainless 
> bearings but not certain.  Anyone know where to find replacement parts and 
> how many bearings there are supposed to be? (21 in this diagram but not sure 
> if that is for ST6002)
> 
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
> _______________________________________________
> 
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