Don't forget about the "Parking hook", otherwise known as an anchor. Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. ------ Original message------From: Marek Fluder via CnC-ListDate: Fri, May 15, 2015 07:51To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Marek Fluder;Subject:Re: Stus-List Rig - crack -> termsDennis, This made a laugh of the day for me.Do you have any more of those?Love this list! MarekC320 in Hamilton On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Russ, So calling a halyard an "uppy downy" line and a sheet an "inny outy" line doesn't work? :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:12 AM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Rob, I can understand your confusion with a term you are comfortable using asit was provided by a rigger you trust. My intention is not to belittleyou or anybody else but to point out to everybody when I see littlethings start to get outta place. My assumed role is to nudge them back togoodness again. You might have noticed I deleted all reference to you in my reply to-> terms. But seriously... providing copy from a mega-store discount website is notthe best tactic to dissuade me.. This is precisely how terms get misusedand into the mainstream in the first place. If these guys used tie-bar instead of throughbolt & compression tubes(check the flange bushings for repair) : http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Tangs-complete/Tangs-complete.htm Or this British guy who is still using looped eyes and admonishing hispeers for worrying if an unshouldered mast band is even practical. Hereferences the late great Herreshof on the wonders ofthrough-bolting. http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/articles/Gaffergear/lugs/Mastbands.PDF Then I might call, "Uncle!" My references are mostly on paper, like a library, and include favouritessuch as Bruce Bingham, Bob Perry & Brion Toss. I'm slowly catching upon Ted Brewer's works since he moved to a nearby island. I have a story with a trusted rigger to share. When replacing the gang on Sweet, we got the cap shrouds &forestay done (with Harken furler rehab) and set about to do the lowers.Oops, his stock didn't have the correct size. "No problem." hesays, "I'll upgrade you, up one size at no cost." "No thanks." says I, "When will the right size behere?" You see, a rigging wire too big is no better than a rigging wire toosmall and my trusted professional couldn't see that because he works fora living and in this case it probably would not have made any differenceand most customers would appreciate getting a more expensive product forthe same price even if it didn't do the job as well. Humans are kinda funny in a way. That's probably enough for now, unless someone wishes to get me startedon the oxymoron cutter-ketch. Cheers,Russ Sweet35 mk-1 VancouverIsland At 07:06 PM 14/05/2015, you wrote: Russ: I too like to use the appropriate nautical term. When we putthe standing rigging together for the first time after purchasing theboat, we discovered the top 'aluminum 'through-bolt, 'stud' or 'tie bar'as the rigger from North Sails called it was approx. half worn through bythe wire from the main halyard. This yacht shop in the below website advertises what we are talking aboutas a 'TIE BAR' and "threaded at 12mm at both ends"....pic isnot of a 'tie bar' obviously. http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-TIE-BAR-UNI_533100.htm And yes, we have the compression tube inside the mast .....we used theoriginal one with a new SS piece of metal, whatever it is called, to holdthe tangs together. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S On 2015-05-14 3:01 PM, Russ & Melody via CnC-List wrote: A little term bitchin' here. The threaded thingy that goes inside the mast to hold the tangs tight isa called through-bolt (even though in most cases it is a stud) not atie-bar. And it goes inside a compression tube so it can be properlytightened without deflecting the mast sides towards each other. Thecompression tube was especially important in wooden masts to preventmovement and elongation of holes. I may be pissin in the wind here and I concede most people use the termsalon instead of saloon, but I endeavour to preserve to use of as manyother old terms as I can. Cheers,Russ Sweet35 mk-1 VancouverIsland At 07:24 AM 14/05/2015, you wrote: Mike et al: ....the most difficult one is getting the cap shroud in its tang and thenscrew the tang into the tie bar inside the mast.....the shroud and thetang have to rotate as one. _______________________________________________Email address:CnC-List@cnc-list.comTo change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to thebottom of page at:http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to thebottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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