Rick,
In my opinion the adjustment would have to be based on the wind speed and angle 
too much to be do-able. A much easier solution would be to get the class to all 
agree to run in one class or the other...most likely JAM. Any way you do it, if 
I can clear the schedule, I’ll be there!
James
delaney
C&C 38 Mk2
Oriental, NC

From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 9:17 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List PHRF Adjustments for Spin and JAM in a single fleet

OK. I know this has been discussed before. But I just spent almost two hours in 
the mail archives rereading a whole bunch of previous messages, trying to come 
up with a consensus opinion on how to adjust PHRF ratings to allow spin and JAM 
boats to compete in a single (small) fleet.

 

What I firmly believe I have discovered is that, sort of like economists and 
politicians, if you laid all the opinions end to end they would never reach a 
conclusion.

 

I know that a number of PHRF organizations give a boat both a Spin and a 
non-spin rating. And I understand that local some local organizations with 
small fleets running in a single event will adjust the ratings of boats in 
non-spin to promote more even competition. From what I can see, the credit for 
running non-spin seems to be in the range of 10-18 seconds, or 10-15% of the 
boat’s PHRF.

 

What I’m trying to do is plan for a “C&C Cup” to be run as part of a local 
charity regatta called Pirates on the Pungo, in Belhaven, NC on the weekend of 
May 15-17. More on that later.

 

The race on Saturday is a longish (10-12NM) pursuit race that starts and 
finishes in the harbor and has north, south, east, and west legs. I know of 
about 15 C&Cs within a day’s travel of Belhaven, so I’m guessing the fleet 
would include 8-10 boats, with some cruisers and 1 or 2 real racers. To promote 
camaraderie and competition, and also so I don’t have to pony up too much for 
the prizes (the winner will get a half hull of his own boat made by Andrew 
Burton), we would have a single fleet.

 

So help me here:

 

How does your local PHRF or sailing club adjust the ratings between Spin and 
JAM to allow both types of boats in a single fleet? And how equitable are the 
results based on your experience?

 

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 



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