Martin,
The 43 looks so much like a scaled up Viking 33. That is a truly beautiful
boat! There is one for sale in Toronto. I would love to own one of those.
The admiral can't bare the the thought of another rehab or another 70s boat. I
don't think I have another rehab in me either...
Love to see some pictures of calypso!
Danny
From my Android phone
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From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Date: 01/14/2015 12:08 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: andrew rothweiler <andy...@att.net>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List questions from potential buyer
I agree with Andy's response. The tapping around areas of concern will give
strong indication of issues if any with the laminate and / or core.
We are 1.5 years into a deck restoration on Calypso (hull #1 of the 43's
launched in January 1970 from Bruckmann's custom yard). We have explored all
sorts of water intrusion issues with tapping, drilling holes, grinding out
layers, and long ago a moisture meter. The moisture meter had a low
correlation to water issues, especially in locating an exact spot of excess
moisture. Tapping seems to be very accurate.
I have heard of moisture meters reading excess moisture in the bottom paint
more than moisture in the laminate. Tapping around hull stress points (keel
stub and prop strut), hull penetrations (thru hulls etc.), and a close
examination of the inside keel bolt areas and mast step area may be able to
confirm the condition of the boat's structure.
If the deck is cored, have the surveyor tap around the hardware and rigging
deck penetrations. We found most of Calypso's failed balsa core under halyard
blocks and around the mast collar. To be fair, this 43 has been raced hard
every year of its life on both coasts and the Great Lakes. As a race boat most
of the deck hardware had been moved several times and much maintenance was
deferred. Fortunately repair of balsa cored decks is straight forward with
basic epoxy skills but it is a little messy.
If the boat has been well maintained, was not sunk or stored with lots of water
inside and is a fresh water boat, the moisture meter reading should not be your
defining issue. I expect a well maintained C&C 33 hull will outlast your
ownership long enough to be another sailor's first C&C.
Martin
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle
From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of andrew rothweiler
via CnC-List [cnc-list@cnc-list.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 6:35 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List questions from potential buyer
Hello all,
I've found a mid 70s C&C 33-1 that I'm interested in buying. One thing the
survey indicated was elevated moisture levels, into the yellow on the meter, in
the bottom. The owner had the bottom epoxy barrier coated about 8 years ago,
and the bottom paint was new last year. There were no blisters present at the
survey, and the owner has said there have never been any- he has owned the boat
for 30+ years. The boat has been on the Great Lakes from new, and based on the
condition of the boat, especially compared to all the boats I have looked at,
I would say the boat has had an attentive, conscientious owner.
My question is whether elevated moisture in several areas of the bottom of a
solid fiberglass hull should be a deal breaker or a matter of concern.
The surveyor told me that he would not be concerned, and that if I was I should
buy a new boat (hah! not happening).
Do you agree with the surveyor's lack of concern about some level of moisture
in the bottom of a solid glass hull of a 40 year old boat?
Many thanks in advance for advice. My search for a boat has lasted a couple of
years now, has included a big learning curve, and has focused on C&Cs, in large
part because of the valuable information and assistance available on this site
from the members. Thanks again.
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