A few years back I owned a 1973 C&C 35 MK 1 and there was no sign of a seam at all.Keel joint was perfect with no visible signs of a smile. Biggest concern was the mast step and the wood underneath..
On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Engine Seacock for a C&C 44 1987 (D.J. Platt) > 2. Re: Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? (Bill Coleman) > 3. Folding prop (Ted Drossos) > 4. Re: Keel Bolts (Neil Gallagher) > 5. Re: Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? (Peter Fell) > 6. Re: Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? (Kevin Driscoll) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 08:52:27 -0500 > From: "D.J. Platt" <w7...@yahoo.ca> > To: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Seacock for a C&C 44 1987 > Message-ID: <E2DE82996414400FB25A34700817A5DC@ileenPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > C&C seemed to use different parts on the same boats. My 1982 32 has Groco > seacocks with the rubber plugs. My friends 1981 has a seacock with a > tapered bronze plug, presumably from that years low cost supplier. As Rick > points out, a seacock is seacock. > > > From: Rick Brass via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:17 PM > To: 'Bill McNeese' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Seacock for a C&C 44 1987 > > > I don't know the manufacturer, but a seacock is pretty much a seacock. You > can buy a bronze one made by Groco or marlon made by Forespar. There are > other manufacturers as well. Baically you need to know either the thread > size on the thru hull, or the size of the hose connected to the seacock. > > > > When I redid the engine on my 38 I wanted to change the orientation of the > hose barb on the seacock. The bronze thru hull had straight threads for a > ?" thru hull, so I bought the corresponding ?" Groco seacock, and a 90 > degree bronze hose barb for straight thread to ?" hose. As someone has > already pointed out, hose barbs come with either a straight thread > connection, or a tapered pipe thread, and it is not a good idea to put > tapered thread into the straight thread of a seacock. > > > > My 38, with a 36hp diesel, used a ?" hose for cooling water intake. Your > engine might use a larger hose depending on manufacturer and size of the > engine. > > > > Good Luck > > > > > > Rick Brass > > Washington, NC > > > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill > McNeese via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:23 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Engine Seacock for a C&C 44 1987 > > > > Does anyone know the manufacture of the Main Engine supply seacock on a > 1987 C&C 44, and it's dimension? > > Bill McNeese > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141127/5a6b037a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 19:36:50 -0500 > From: Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > Message-ID: <njf4i5q80pdm0ourmpax5bf0.1417135010...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The Sears flyer In today's sales has the vac I have, ?I think, > SKU# 00912001 > > ?Bill Coleman > C&C 39 > > <div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Wally Bryant via > CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> </div><div>Date:11/26/2014 2:09 PM > (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com </div><div>Subject: Re: > Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? </div><div> > </div> > > > Kevin wrote: > > Looking for recommendations for a wet / dry vac for boat and some home. > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141127/2d1e7f64/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 22:35:28 -0500 > From: Ted Drossos <replus...@aol.com> > To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Folding prop > Message-ID: <8d1d8d37d36c434-1470-22...@webmail-vd021.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a 2 blade Flex-O-Fold prop and never experienced this type of > problem. How long has it been since your boat was last hauled and the prop > checked? Those props are pretty bullet proof. I would venture to guess that > there is something stuck between the gears like a build up of heavy slime > which is preventing the blades from opening easily. Try placing the > transmission in forward or reverse and then back into neutral a couple of > dozen times and see if that loosens the blades up a bit. I don't believe > that greasing the pins is necessary as there normally should be very little > friction between the clean metal mating parts. > > > Ted Drossos > C&C 29-2 > H2OT > Long Island, NY > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141127/dfdd4c62/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 11:15:19 -0500 > From: Neil Gallagher <njgallag...@optonline.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel Bolts > Message-ID: <54789f97.9070...@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I'd be interested in the answer to that question as well. > > I do know that on the 35-1, the sump under the mast step is molded into > the hull, and the aft part of that sump is the mating surface to the > downward sloping forward end of the keel, the source of the smile. The > forwardmost 3/4" bolt goes through wood blocks under a thin upper > layer of fiberglass that are fitted into the aft part of the sump. > (Don't ask me how I know, but it had something to do with an awful > crunching sound that happened when I torqued the 3/4" bolt...). > > I have the construction drawing for the 35-1, from South Shore, it shows > the wood in the sump but not too much detail about the area under the > six 1" bolts aft -it refers to another plan. It implies that that the > six "pedestals", for lack of better word, in the bilge on which the nuts > bear are part of the bottom of the hull molding and the lead is directly > in contact on the outside, ie., there's no stub or spacer between the > hull and lead, but it's not clear. I too would like to know what's > actually there -anyone? > > Neil Gallagher > Weatherly 35-1 > Glen Cove, NY > > > > On 11/26/2014 5:51 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote: > > Thanks. I forgot to mention tightening the keel bolts is NOT done in the > > water! > > Does anyone know if the 35 MK I and II keel stub is glassed on after the > > fact or molded as part of the hull? > > > > > > Joe Della Barba > > j...@dellabarba.com > > Coquina > > C&C 35 MK I > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill > > Hoyne via CnC-List > > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:18 PM > > To: Will Harris; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Keel Bolts > > > > Thanks for the advice: > > > >> On Nov 26, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Will Harris via CnC-List > > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I've been following the conversation about Keel Bolts and cracks. While > > we didn't build your boats, I do have some general advice... > >> Cracks - It is easy to think that a crack indicates something is > > breaking. Really, it means that something HAS BROKEN. A crack around > the > > keel is potentially very serious. If it is just the C&C smile, not as > > serious, but if you find cracks in the laminate, or the structure or any > of > > the tabbing, get it looked at! > >> They will not heal themselves, and the consequences are really, really > > bad. Addressed early, the repairs may not even be too expensive. > > > > When I get on the hard in the spring i can check where the cracks are > coming > > from and how serious they are (I hope) > > > >> Torque > >> > >> In some of these threads, it seems like people are going to extremes > > torqing up the nuts. My guess is that you are trying to lift the keel > up to > > the hull with the nuts. Don't do that! I don't know the exact bolts you > > may have, so I can't give you exact numbers, but that information is > easy to > > find. > >> All over torquing does is increases the odds of stripping, galling or > > breaking a bolt. Even if you don't cause your keel to fall off, breaking > a > > bolt is a huge headache. > > > > I agree. There is no point in over torquing and trying to lift the keel > > while the boat is in the water seems difficult and senseless. > > > >> The proper tool is the Travellift and a good operator. To re-seat the > > keel, make sure that the travellift sits the hull down flush on the keel. > > The nuts are just there to keep it there. > > > > We will see what happens in the spring!! > > > >> Happy Thanksgiving > > Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving and eat lots of turkey!! > > > > Bill > > > > > >> Will Harris > >> C&C Yachts > >> _______________________________________________ > >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > >> > >> Email address: > >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > > page at: > >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 08:34:06 -0800 > From: "Peter Fell" <prf...@gmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > Message-ID: <b16ea2f7d36640839ceb5c2309ed9...@intra.camosun.bc.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I bought a smaller 4-gallon Shop Vac 5 years or so ago that seems to be > like the Energizer bunny. I think I paid $30 or $40 for it on sale. It?s > too large to keep on board but small enough to easily throw in the trunk of > the car and it sits nicely in the cockpit when I?m using it. I found an > extra hose kit at a thrift shop for $5 so I have enough hose to reach just > about anywhere in the boat when it is in the cockpit. One nice thing is > that this unit takes the standard bags and filters that are used on the > majority of the Shop Vac products ... so I have a Hepa filter installed > that really cuts down on the fine dust exhausted out the unit. > > The filter came from Lee Valley tools ... they (amazingly) had the best > price I could find. I?m on my 2nd filter right now ... sanding the bottom > after using Soy Strip killed the 1st one .... along with my big shop vac > (although that one was a used unit I picked up off Craigslist). > > Peter Fell > Sidney, BC > Cygnet > C&C 27 MkIII > > From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:26 PM > To: 'Kevin Driscoll' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > > I bot a Sears a couple years ago, and I luv it. Well, maybe I?m getting > carried away, but I have tried Sharks, larger shop vacs, but this one is > perfect. I tried to find it on their site, to no avail, but they may still > have it. It was one of the smallest, maybe 2 or 2 .5 gal. > > It has a little felt bag instead of the regular filters. Make sure you get > one that blows as well as sucks. I use it to suck on the faucet to prime > it in the spring, Blow it in the fall to clean out the lines, (oops, this > is starting to sound a little graphic, sorry) sometimes when I am sanding > or using the dremel I hold it nearby to suck up the dust. Oh, and I have > even used it to clean! > > The great thing is, it came with a little side attachment point, and I > screwed the attachment point under the chart table, in completely wasted > space. It just hangs there, and You would never know it was there, and I > can run it with the inverter when out. > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin > Driscoll via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:14 PM > To: C&C List > Subject: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > > > > Looking for recommendations for a wet / dry vac for boat and some home. > 110v is fine, but prefer something other than the huge ~16 gallon versions. > Suggestions and links are welcome. Of course?price/value is a consideration. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141128/016744fa/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:40:16 +0000 > From: Kevin Driscoll <kevindrisc...@gmail.com> > To: Peter Fell <prf...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > Message-ID: > < > ca+lfbyr5hxfmkmfi1aarsfagxygfixsrqe8nwwruvrsnuwl...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks everybody! > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2014, 8:35 AM Peter Fell via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > I bought a smaller 4-gallon Shop Vac 5 years or so ago that seems to be > > like the Energizer bunny. I think I paid $30 or $40 for it on sale. It?s > > too large to keep on board but small enough to easily throw in the trunk > of > > the car and it sits nicely in the cockpit when I?m using it. I found an > > extra hose kit at a thrift shop for $5 so I have enough hose to reach > just > > about anywhere in the boat when it is in the cockpit. One nice thing is > > that this unit takes the standard bags and filters that are used on the > > majority of the Shop Vac products ... so I have a Hepa filter installed > > that really cuts down on the fine dust exhausted out the unit. > > > > The filter came from Lee Valley tools ... they (amazingly) had the best > > price I could find. I?m on my 2nd filter right now ... sanding the bottom > > after using Soy Strip killed the 1st one .... along with my big shop vac > > (although that one was a used unit I picked up off Craigslist). > > > > Peter Fell > > Sidney, BC > > Cygnet > > C&C 27 MkIII > > > > *From:* Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:26 PM > > *To:* 'Kevin Driscoll' <kevindrisc...@gmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > > > > > > I bot a Sears a couple years ago, and I luv it. Well, maybe I?m getting > > carried away, but I have tried Sharks, larger shop vacs, but this one is > > perfect. I tried to find it on their site, to no avail, but they may > still > > have it. It was one of the smallest, maybe 2 or 2 .5 gal. > > > > It has a little felt bag instead of the regular filters. Make sure you > get > > one that blows as well as sucks. I use it to suck on the faucet to prime > > it in the spring, Blow it in the fall to clean out the lines, (oops, this > > is starting to sound a little graphic, sorry) sometimes when I am > sanding > > or using the dremel I hold it nearby to suck up the dust. Oh, and I have > > even used it to clean! > > > > The great thing is, it came with a little side attachment point, and I > > screwed the attachment point under the chart table, in completely wasted > > space. It just hangs there, and You would never know it was there, and I > > can run it with the inverter when out. > > > > > > > > Bill Coleman > > > > C&C 39 > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Kevin > > Driscoll via CnC-List > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:14 PM > > *To:* C&C List > > *Subject:* Stus-List Wet / Dry Vac recommendations? > > > > > > > > Looking for recommendations for a wet / dry vac for boat and some home. > > 110v is fine, but prefer something other than the huge ~16 gallon > versions. > > Suggestions and links are welcome. Of course?price/value is a > consideration. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > > > Email address: > > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > > page at: > > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20141128/08b535f4/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 106, Issue 75 > ***************************************** >
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