Damn I thought my Delta was new tech.

Joel

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014, Paul Baker via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>  Or a Manson Supreme (not made in China), or a Mantus - any of the "new
> generation" of anchors appear to be an improvement over delta/cqr/danforth
> etc.
>
>
> On 14-11-11 02:57 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List wrote:
>
>  Adding my 2 cents late:  I have a 1990 C&C 34R, (a 5.5 ton 36 footer)
> and a 22# Delta sets quickly with the 18 ft of chain, which is half a
> boatlength.  The system holds fine up to about 25 knots of wind.   Above
> that she sometimes dragged, especially if the wind is gusty and shifting
> constantly.  When that happens, I add a 20# kellet or a second anchor.   I
> pull the anchor by hand so will keep the system as light as possible.  We
> anchor in 10 to 25 ft of water and the research says adding more chain
> (more than 2/3rds scope) does not improve holding.   I did a little
> research after this thread and I am sold on buying a Rocna 15, which should
> work better for me.  More money than I wanted to spend, but good insurance
> for future cruises.  Thanks guys.
>
>
>  Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
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> *To: *"Josh Muckley" <muckl...@gmail.com>
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> *Sent: *Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:05:00 PM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Anchor question
>
>  Mark,
>
>  If all you want is a "lunch hook" the smaller one is fine for your
> boat.  If you plan to do extended cruising where you could be caught in an
> anchorage (as opposed to a marina) in a storm then I would re-evaluate.
> I'm not doing extended cruising, so personally I would not upsize.  (I have
> a 22 lb Delta and only 10 feet of chain.  Yes, I need more chain.)
>
>  Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
>> While we're on the topic of anchors, how do those of you with windlasses
>> have then mounted.  I've considered one but can't figure out a good
>> solution for my 37+.  Pictures would be awsome.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>  On Nov 6, 2014 4:40 PM, "Graham Collins via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Mark
>>> I've got a Rocna 15 hanging on the front of Secret Plans, and now that
>>> the boats are hauled if you like you could borrow it to do a test fit and
>>> see how it hangs.  I'm very happy with it.  I do have a windlass tho'
>>>
>>> Graham Collins
>>> Secret Plans
>>> C&C 35-III #11
>>>
>>> On 2014-11-06 11:08 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote:
>>>
>>> Looking for feedback on new anchors.
>>> Currently I have a Kingston brand, 30lb, CQR anchor. Not too impressed
>>> with its ability to bite even into the nicest sand.
>>> Having read a ton of info, reviews and comments I'm looking at the 'new'
>>> style anchors. I was tempted to go with a Mantus - but price is high and no
>>> local distributer. Ronca's are on sale right now at the Binnacle - so that
>>> makes the decision easier.
>>> The question is what size. I've read the typical 'minimum 1 foot of
>>> chain and 1 pound of anchor for every foot of boat'. But not sure how well
>>> it applies to new versions.
>>> Reading Ronca's recommendations
>>> http://www.rocna.com/product-range/sizing-guide
>>> My 8000lb 30 ft CS 30 would easily fit the 10kg (22lb) recommendation.
>>>
>>> Sure. For the extra $60 I could bump up to the bigger anchor. Not sure
>>> how well either will fit on my bow. I'm sure the heavier anchor would be
>>> harder to haul up - but maybe worth it for the peace of mind?
>>>
>>> Reading some independent reviews (as posted by Ronca)
>>>
>>> http://www.petersmith.net.nz/boat-anchors/independent-performance-testing.php
>>> One claims the Ronca 15 consistently held with 4500lbs.
>>> A chart ( The ABYC Horizontal Working Load (lbs) Table) of expected
>>> anchor strains suggests a 30ft boat would only exert 2800lbs of anchor
>>> strain in a 60kt severe storm --- not something I expect to confront in my
>>> costal cruising.
>>>
>>> I'm on the fence. On one hand tempted to just bump up to the 15kg and
>>> deal with the minor extra challenge dragging the anchor up (I'm fit enough
>>> to manage) - then its never a concern and when I do start venturing further
>>> along the coast I have a security blanket.
>>> On the other wondering if I'm getting into foolish overkill as the 15kg
>>> anchor could manage a boat 2x my weight in a heavy storm.
>>>
>>> Thoughts and opinions welcome.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Dr. Mark Bodnar --
>>>
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