Hi Doug,

Avalanche has a wing keel. Cannot compare with the full keel, but I can say 
that upwind performance is impressive. All the experience sailor at the club 
think I have the full keel because I can point so well.

With the genoa sheeted tight in the shrouds, the telltales are streaming up to 
27 degree AWA. At 25 AWA, the windward telltales are lifting, I can hold 20 
degree AWA for few minutes without stalling, but it is slow.

I found the polar diagram of a C&C 38-3 full keel (from an ORC International 
Certificate), and the VMG is at 42 degree TWA. Last summer, I recorded my boat 
data during a race, and most of my tack where 85 degree (there were no wind 
shift during those).

It is tender that other sailboat, but not that much. With my cruising sails, I 
have to reef early (15 knots TWS), but I think it is more related to my old 15 
years old cruising sails (read "potato bag shape"). During a race, we had the 
#1 genoa up, and with 15 knots TWS, never heeled more than 22 degree. With the 
huge sail plan, it heel faster that other boat, but it rapidly sits on its 
cheeks. Huge beam those 38-3. I have all sorts of comment on my boat; it looks 
pregnant, looks like a squirrel with a mouthful of nuts, etc...

Around here (St-Lawrence 1000 Islands), the shoal draft is priceless.

Pierre Tremblay 
Avalanche #54988 
C&C38-3 WK, hull #76
 

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Envoyé le : samedi 8 novembre 2014 10h44
Objet : Stus-List C&C 38 MK III Info
  

I'm looking at a 1987 C&C 38 MK III with a wing keel. Does anyone out there
have any experience on how the upwind performance is with the wing keel at
5' 6" draft vs the full keel at 7' 7" draft. I understand that the full keel
model will probably point better, I'm just trying to get a feel for what I
might be giving up with the wing. Also curious to know how tender the boat
might be. Plan to do some casual club racing.

Doug
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