My only hold up with using my deck lights instead of the tri-color is that
my tri-color uplights my windex very nicely.

Josh
On Nov 6, 2014 12:30 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>   Joel,
>
> this, actually, jives well with what I said about sailing in-shore. The
> same applies if you are sailing in close quarters. If you see the lights at
> the deck level, then there is no advantage in having them at the top of the
> mast. The opposite is true, as well. If you cannot see the deck lights, the
> top of the mast lights have an advantage.
>
> Marek
>
>  *From:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:17 PM
> *To:* Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs
>
>  Marek,
>
> one other difference:  I find it harder to judge the distance of others
> boats if they have a masthead light.  It only really matters when racing
> and I am on port - otherwise, I stay away.  AIS helps if the other boat is
> so equipped.
>
> Joel
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>>   It is kind of funny how a "steaming light" can many people confused.
>>
>> The main point is that a sailboat is a sailboat and boat under power,
>> depending on its current situation at the time (if the engine is running,
>> it is a power boat, if it is not running, it is a sailboat (the actual term
>> is "in use" (not "engine running"), but from what I read so far, if your
>> engine is running and you are simply out of gear, you would be still
>> considered "under power")).
>>
>> The lights configuration has to reflect what you are.
>>
>> A sailboat (let's not dwell on the length at this point) needs the side
>> lights (red and green) and the stern light (white).
>>
>> A power boat needs the same side lights and an all around white light.
>>
>> How you accomplish the above is up to you (or the boat manufacturer).
>>
>> The most common approach is to have an extra "steaming light" that closes
>> the circle  - your stern light plus the steaming light provide full 360
>> degrees white light. This way you have one switch to turn your sailing
>> lights (side and stern) and another one to turn the steaming light, when
>> you turn on the engine.
>>
>> Another option is to have a full circle white light (e.g. on top of the
>> mast) and use your side and stern lights when sailing and the side lights
>> and the full circle white light when under power. This requires to have a
>> separate switch for your stern light (and of course one for the full circle
>> light), because if you use full circle light, you have to switch your stern
>> light off.
>>
>> You cannot repeat any prescribed light so, if you have tricolour on the
>> top of the mast, you cannot use the side (bow) lights or vice versa.
>>
>> People who sail off shore tend to put a tricolour on the top of the mast
>> for a number of reasons. One is that it is only one bulb (instead of
>> three). Another is that, especially with some waves, the deck level lights
>> are not visible from afar. My personal experience is that you cannot see
>> them from more then two wavelength away. But you cannot use the tricolour
>> AND the deck level lights at the same time.
>>
>> People who sail in-shore or in coastal water would say that a light at
>> the masthead is of no use, because nobody looks that high up. Even an
>> anchor light at the top of the mast might be too high on some anchorages.
>>
>> Interestingly, the same discussion is (was) happening at the Sailboat
>> Owners Forum.
>>
>> Marek
>>
>>  *From:* Burt Stratton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:05 AM
>> *To:* 'Dave Godwin' <dave.god...@me.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs
>>
>>
>> Sorry for the rookie question but what is the steaming light?
>>
>>
>>
>> For sailboats I am aware of the deck bi-color, masthead and stern lights,
>> tri-color (which is mounted  on the mast and used as an alternate to the
>> deck mounted bi-color and stern lights, and the anchor light. Is "steaming
>> light" another term for masthead light?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave
>> Godwin via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:49 AM
>> *To:* Andrew Burton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs
>>
>>
>>
>> ... and I could could buy a bigger (C&C!) boat if I had a dollar for every
>> time I have seen the tri-color AND the ship's running lights on at night.
>> Here's another one that I found "amusing", sailboat under power, tri-color
>> light on, and the steaming light lit. Now there's an interesting lighting
>> configuration.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave Godwin
>> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
>> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
>>
>> Ronin's Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Nov 3, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob, a tricolor is indeed a substitute for deck level running lights. But
>> it may only be used while sailing. And it should never be used in addition
>> to deck level lights.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> C&C 40
>>
>> Peregrine
>>
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>>
>> 61 W Narragansett
>>
>> Newport, RI
>>
>> USA    02840
>>
>>
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>>
>> +401 965-5260
>>
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 13:38, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Joe:  it is my understanding that a masthead tricolor is not a
>> substitute for deck-level running lights--it can and should be used in
>> addition.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Bob Boyer
>>
>> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD
>>
>> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230
>>
>> email: dainyr...@icloud.com
>>
>> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply
>> messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame
>>
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