My only hold up with using my deck lights instead of the tri-color is that my tri-color uplights my windex very nicely.
Josh On Nov 6, 2014 12:30 PM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Joel, > > this, actually, jives well with what I said about sailing in-shore. The > same applies if you are sailing in close quarters. If you see the lights at > the deck level, then there is no advantage in having them at the top of the > mast. The opposite is true, as well. If you cannot see the deck lights, the > top of the mast lights have an advantage. > > Marek > > *From:* Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:17 PM > *To:* Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs > > Marek, > > one other difference: I find it harder to judge the distance of others > boats if they have a masthead light. It only really matters when racing > and I am on port - otherwise, I stay away. AIS helps if the other boat is > so equipped. > > Joel > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> It is kind of funny how a "steaming light" can many people confused. >> >> The main point is that a sailboat is a sailboat and boat under power, >> depending on its current situation at the time (if the engine is running, >> it is a power boat, if it is not running, it is a sailboat (the actual term >> is "in use" (not "engine running"), but from what I read so far, if your >> engine is running and you are simply out of gear, you would be still >> considered "under power")). >> >> The lights configuration has to reflect what you are. >> >> A sailboat (let's not dwell on the length at this point) needs the side >> lights (red and green) and the stern light (white). >> >> A power boat needs the same side lights and an all around white light. >> >> How you accomplish the above is up to you (or the boat manufacturer). >> >> The most common approach is to have an extra "steaming light" that closes >> the circle - your stern light plus the steaming light provide full 360 >> degrees white light. This way you have one switch to turn your sailing >> lights (side and stern) and another one to turn the steaming light, when >> you turn on the engine. >> >> Another option is to have a full circle white light (e.g. on top of the >> mast) and use your side and stern lights when sailing and the side lights >> and the full circle white light when under power. This requires to have a >> separate switch for your stern light (and of course one for the full circle >> light), because if you use full circle light, you have to switch your stern >> light off. >> >> You cannot repeat any prescribed light so, if you have tricolour on the >> top of the mast, you cannot use the side (bow) lights or vice versa. >> >> People who sail off shore tend to put a tricolour on the top of the mast >> for a number of reasons. One is that it is only one bulb (instead of >> three). Another is that, especially with some waves, the deck level lights >> are not visible from afar. My personal experience is that you cannot see >> them from more then two wavelength away. But you cannot use the tricolour >> AND the deck level lights at the same time. >> >> People who sail in-shore or in coastal water would say that a light at >> the masthead is of no use, because nobody looks that high up. Even an >> anchor light at the top of the mast might be too high on some anchorages. >> >> Interestingly, the same discussion is (was) happening at the Sailboat >> Owners Forum. >> >> Marek >> >> *From:* Burt Stratton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 11:05 AM >> *To:* 'Dave Godwin' <dave.god...@me.com> ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs >> >> >> Sorry for the rookie question but what is the steaming light? >> >> >> >> For sailboats I am aware of the deck bi-color, masthead and stern lights, >> tri-color (which is mounted on the mast and used as an alternate to the >> deck mounted bi-color and stern lights, and the anchor light. Is "steaming >> light" another term for masthead light? >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave >> Godwin via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 06, 2014 10:49 AM >> *To:* Andrew Burton; cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Running Lights >Approved LED bulbs >> >> >> >> ... and I could could buy a bigger (C&C!) boat if I had a dollar for every >> time I have seen the tri-color AND the ship's running lights on at night. >> Here's another one that I found "amusing", sailboat under power, tri-color >> light on, and the steaming light lit. Now there's an interesting lighting >> configuration. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Dave Godwin >> 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin >> Reedville - Chesapeake Bay >> >> Ronin's Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 3, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Bob, a tricolor is indeed a substitute for deck level running lights. But >> it may only be used while sailing. And it should never be used in addition >> to deck level lights. >> >> Andy >> >> C&C 40 >> >> Peregrine >> >> >> Andrew Burton >> >> 61 W Narragansett >> >> Newport, RI >> >> USA 02840 >> >> >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> >> +401 965-5260 >> >> >> On Nov 3, 2014, at 13:38, Robert Boyer via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Joe: it is my understanding that a masthead tricolor is not a >> substitute for deck-level running lights--it can and should be used in >> addition. >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> Bob Boyer >> >> S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD >> >> 1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230 >> >> email: dainyr...@icloud.com >> >> blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com >> >> >> >> "There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply >> messing about in boats." --Kenneth Grahame >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > >
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