Jon Was the survey done for you? Did you pay for it?
There are two types of surveys. There is a pre-purchase survey commissioned and paid for by the potential buyer and there is an insurance survey commissioned and paid for by the existing owner for insurance purposes. The buyers survey is usually more detailed and is there to point out the potential issues as well as strengths of the boat. An insurance survey does not always record everything to the same level of detail and is designed to put a valuation on the boat for insurance purposes. I have had both done. I like my insurance company to have a very high opinion of my boat. However when buying I like to know potential expenses I will incur in order to determine a fair price So back to the original question. Who paid for the survey? Mike -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jon Tasker via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 76 I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is do your own survey. 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(Robert Abbott) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:40:26 -0300 > From: Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> > To: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Overpriced? > Message-ID: <544e676a.5000...@eastlink.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There is a buyer for everything, at the right price. > > When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C > 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S.......looked at them all. Looked > at a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well. > > Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, > Wisconsin.....one owner, professionally maintained, adequately > equipped, fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and > transportation cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than > what we would have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new > 10' Zodiac thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat > that I will never use. > > I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.....paid a surveyor about > $350 USD for a 23 page report....that was the selling point, the survey. > I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat. > > I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen > so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely. > > I wish this 32 seller well.....if he gets close to his asking price, > it bodes well for all us C&C owners. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > > > > >> On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: >> I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot necessarily justify the prices. >> In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used >> sailboats. The market is not saturated by any means and the stock of >> quality used boats available is thin. This usually means pay what the >> owner wants oroutsource to the south and pay for exchange, shipping, >> border brokerage, flights to and from the location, permits and lots >> of survey charges. When you total it all up the prices end up being >> fairly close to what Bowline typically charges. Then add to that >> there is the comfort level of knowing the history of the local boats, >> their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season is short so >> all of these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. The >> boats are in fresh water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods >> there's little swell to speak of even in storms. The biggest hazard >> is grounding and unfortunately most sailboats there have touched >> bottom. The remainder will some day. The rigs although 30 plus years >> old show no corrosion or acid rain pitting. Gener > ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old condition if it was decently maintained. >> I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto those who want a quick painless purchase with background confidence of a quality fresh water boat. It may include a slip too which at my harbour is impossible to get now. I would expect a fair bit of negotiation will bring it closer to reality as well. >> Cheers >> >> Brent Driedger >> C&C 27v >> Lake Winnipeg >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>> While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintainedboat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained,fresh water, one owner boat. >>> >>> Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! >>> >>> >>> http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html >>> >>> Rob Abbott >>> AZURA >>> C&C 32 - 84 >>> Halifax, N.S. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> >>> Email address: >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: >>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 76 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
