Reemphasizing what Dennis said. Torqueing the keel bolts is the key! Belle had a smile when I bought her in '94. It didn't really get fixed until the haulout in 2002. I did part of what Bill Bina did, in that I used my trusty Dremel to open up the smile to a v shaped groove about 3/8" wide. Then put 5200 into the groove, smoothed it out, and let it cure overnight. Then torqued the keel bolts to compress the sealant, and faired over it. Did not put the "bandage" of glass that Bill discussed.
Still no smile apparent at the last haulout. Rick Brass Imzadi C&C 38 mk 2 la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 12:17 PM To: Robert Abbott; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C smile fix - how I did it Ditto. Key is torquing the keelbolts. Pictures of Touché's smile are on the C&C photo album DIY section. Fix was 1999. No issue since Dennis C. Touché 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 24, 2014, at 8:26 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Dan: > > Congratulations on your new boat and welcome to the C&C list. Just about > anything you need advice on, you can get it here. > > In my opinion, Bill Bina has provided you with one of the best methods to > deal with the 'C&C smile'. It is pretty much the way we dealt with ours when > we acquired our boat in 2006. Nine (9) sailing seasons later, and there is > no evidence of the 'smile'. > > Previously, we did the same thing when we acquired a Kirby 25 before the C&C > 32 and the 'smile' never reappeared. > > Good luck with your boat. By the way, where do you sail from? > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > >> On 2014/10/24 8:04 AM, Dan Mccorison via CnC-List wrote: >> Thanks bill >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 24, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Bill Bina via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I fixed mine about 10 years ago and it has remained completely fixed, >>> despite a few incidents of groundings. I cleaned out the joint mostly by >>> using a wire wheel chucked in a drill. That dug a channel all the way along >>> the length of the joint on both sides and around the leading edge. >>> >>> Then re-torqued the keel bolts to spec using a long handled 3/4 inch drive >>> torque wrench and a variety of extensions, adapters, and sockets that I >>> collected from a number of sources. I got the now dis-continued torque >>> wrench from Harbor Freight for around $100. The rest of the sockets and >>> stuff was a few hundred dollars. Heavy Equipment and truck mechanics use >>> this big stuff, so ask some of them where they buy tools besides Snap-On, >>> which is scary expensive. I know I got some of the deep sockets from NAPA >>> autoparts. They sell them individually, which is good, because those big >>> deep sizes aren't cheap! My boat has 3 different sized bolts. >>> >>> Following re-torque adventure, I used a brass brush dipped in un-thickened >>> epoxy to clean and seal the exposed metal and fiberglass. Next step was to >>> fill the channel using Epoxy thickened to the consistency of peanut butter. >>> Then I used a sander with 80 grit paper to clean an area all the way around >>> extending about 10" above and 12" below the joint, which I then "primed >>> with the brass brush/un-thickened epoxy. Followed that with several layers >>> of fiberglass cloth soaked in slightly thickened epoxy and wraped like a >>> bandage extending about 10 inches above and below the joint. Re-faired the >>> keel and applied many coats of interprotect 2000 to seal the surface. >>> Reapplied the first coat of micron extra before the final coat of >>> interprotect cured. Previously I had tried sealing the joint with various >>> fillers including 5200, 4200, Marinetex, Thickened epoxy with fibers. I got >>> to try many fillers because none of them lasted from launch to haul out of >>> a single season. >>> >>> Bill Bina >>> >>>> On 10/24/2014 6:05 AM, DANIEL MCCORISON via CnC-List wrote: >>>> I just bought a 1975 C&C 25mk. It's my first sailboat I have owned. Just >>>> wondering what is the best product to use to fix the C&C smile. Also what >>>> is the procedure to go about fixing it? >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>>> >>>> Email address: >>>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>>> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >>>> page at: >>>> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
