As of today there are no cases of Ebola in Canada. 

Paul Taylor
C&C 29 mk1
Sorcery
Barrie, On. CAN
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>   1. Re:  winterizing the PYI shaft seal (Marek Dziedzic)
>   2. Re:  Ebola? (Leslie Paal)
>   3. Re:  [Bulk] Re:  Ebola? (David Drake)
>   4. Re:  torqing keel bolts (Michael Brown)
>   5. Re:  Mast Self-Climbers? (Leslie Paal)
>   6.  All is lost.. Disapointing flick (Jean-Francois J Rivard)
>   7. Re:  How Big is my Shaft (Josh Muckley)
>   8. Re:  Ebola? (Letsgo Sailing)
>   9. Re:  All is lost.. Disapointing flick (Jerome Tauber)
>  10. Re:  How Big is my Shaft (Graham Collins)
>  11. Re:  All is lost.. Disapointing flick (Brent Driedger)
>  12. Re:  Mast Self-Climbers? (Brent Driedger)
>  13. Re:  Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost (Letsgo Sailing)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:04:23 -0400
> From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
> To: "'Petar Horvatic'" <phorv...@gmail.com>,    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
> Message-ID: <blu184-ds22b667ec6a18e5c75191face...@phx.gbl>
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> A simple solution for the set screw issue is to use the retention collar
> (http://www.pyiinc.com/index.php?section=src). It uses very positive
> compression (i.e. large) bolts to hold on to the shaft. If you install it
> right behind the stainless steel bearing of the PSS, it would (almost) never
> move back. I think it is insurance worth its $30 price.
> 
> Marek
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar
> Horvatic via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 2:17 PM
> To: 'Eric Frank'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
> 
> I wonder if your pits were from not using it and then oxidation or
> electrolysis cause carbon material to deteriorate.  The more you use it the
> better the seal is as the carbon polishes itself out.  I had leakage when my
> prop coupling was badly miss-aligned but once I fixed that, leakage went
> away.  Don't forget to replace set screws every time you loosen them. I
> installed mine new in 2004.  Had it out on 4-5 occasions at which time I
> would soak everything in a tupperware container with WD40 for few days then
> wipe it clean.  
> 
> Then I read this article.  
> http://www.passagemaker.com/articles/technical/running-gear/dripless-shaft-s
> eals/[Marek Dziedzic]  
> 
> And I realized that I was probably lucky that I never had a problem.  I am
> due for whatever overhaul kit comes for it.  They don't specify the size and
> thread on the set screw.  I have ordered a 25 pack from mcmaster 5/16"-18 in
> 316SS, with a point set.  I am yet to see how they fit.  
> 
> 
> Petar Horvatic
> Sundowner
> 76 C&C 38MkII
> Newport, RI
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric
> Frank via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 1:22 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List winterizing the PYI shaft seal
> 
> Practical Sailor recently posted a suggestion for winterizing the Dripless
> PYI shaft seal.  PS said to unclamp the SS rotor from the prop shaft so the
> bellows could expand to its uncompressed state.  I have never done this, and
> with the recent discussion about the set screws holding the rotor in place
> on the prop shaft, I wonder if it is worth it.  Would be interested in what
> other PYI users do.  I did replace the entire unit last winter; at full
> engine RPM I had noticed water spraying out between the rotor and the carbon
> flange, perhaps because the thrust of the prop pushed the shaft forward
> until the rotor did not make good contact with the flange.  When I unclamped
> the rotor and slid it forward to inspect, the bellows was very stiff and
> there were some small pits in the carbon and the rotor surfaces. PYI
> recommended replacing the entire unit, which I did, and it has worked fine
> this summer.  But it had worked flawlessly for the 8 years I owned the boat,
> and looked like it had been installed well before that, without doing
> anything to winterize it - just checking to make sure it was not leaking at
> the beginning of each season.  So what's the feeling about following PS's
> suggestion? 
> 
> Eric Frank
> Cat's Paw
> C&C 35 Mk II
> Mattapoisett, MA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:14:27 -0700
> From: Leslie Paal <lpaalc...@yahoo.com>
> To: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
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> Slight correction; the politicians are getting involved......
> 
> Leslie.
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 10/16/14, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
> To: "Wally Bryant" <w...@wbryant.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014, 5:33 PM
> 
> Things are NOT OK.? The
> government is getting involved. 
> 
> Dennis C.
> 
> Sent
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> 
>> On Oct
> 16, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Is
> everybody up there okay?? I hear there's a
> pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in the US and Canada.
>> 
>> Wal
>> 
>> -- 
>> s/v Stella Blue
> www.wbryant.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:21:43 -0400
> From: David Drake <d...@rogers.com>
> To: Sam Salter <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List [Bulk] Re:  Ebola?
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> I almost unsubscribef from the group until I read your quip
> Keep up the good work
> 
> DDrake 
> 73 JH 
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> 
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:15 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You guys can't figure out how to clean up Butyl - there's no way your going 
>> to get your heads around the Ebola crisis!
>> 
>> sam :-)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2014-10-16, at 6:53 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Josh,
>>> 
>>> Agree.  But why did they separate the two infected nurses, the ones that 
>>> care for the ebola patient who died,  and send them to different hospitals 
>>> for care?  That doubles the number of people exposed.  Maybe it's for 
>>> training the hospital staff?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>> 
>>> From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> To: w...@wbryant.com, "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:50:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
>>> 
>>> Over the last 4 weeks I believe we are up to 6 total infected people 2 
>>> cured, 1 dead.  By comparison 6 people per DAY die from electrocution.  We 
>>> need to keep it in control but it is hardly a pandemic.  Oddly they are now 
>>> choosing to transport an infected patient from Texas to Bethesda, MD.  
>>> Seems like maybe a questionable decision.
>>> 
>>> Josh
>>> Solomons, MD
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 16, 2014 7:36 PM, "Wally Bryant via CnC-List" 
>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>> Is everybody up there okay?  I hear there's a pandemicoutbreak of Ebola in 
>>>> the US and Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> Wal
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> s/v Stella Blue
>>>> www.wbryant.com
>>>> 
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:25:57 -0400
> From: Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts
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> Check the amount of bolt sticking out. You may need a deep
> or extra deep socket. If the nut is 1 1/2" the bolt is 1" and
> requires 350 ft/lbs of torque. To me that would be a 1" drive
> and at least an 18" bar.
> 
> As a start I would recommend borrowing or renting the
> appropriate socket, short extension and a 24" bar. Brace yourself
> and give it a really hard pull. 175 pounds of force is a lot, not
> too risky that you are going to exceed it by much.
> 
> If you get any movement of the nut then you have an issue
> and should consider backing off the nuts, cleaning everything
> and torquing them correctly.
> 
> If there is no movement of any of the nuts you may still
> want to clean and re-torque them for piece of mind. Some
> points to check is both the face of the nut and the matching
> washer need to be clean and smooth. Also square.
> 
> I have a 1" drive set with deep sockets so have checked
> or helped re-torque a few keels. A few have been loose,
> maybe that way for years, but have not exhibited any problems.
> 
> Michael Brown
> Windburn
> C&C 30-1
> ?
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:42:57 -0700 
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List torqing keel bolts 
> Message-ID: 
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> 
> Hi Lloyd, 
> 
> Sounds like you have a good mechanic. 
> Good practice for fine work or critical assembly is back off &  
> re-torque but it's unnecessary for keelbolts. And is the spec for dry  
> & clean or lubricated? 
> 
> We just need them "tight enough", 10% over is no big deal. I would  
> check each at spec then try again at 10% over on any that prove tight  
> on first go, but stop at movement. 
> 
> But only 250 ft/lbs?... have you got 3/4 bolts? 1" should be 350 ft/lbs. 
> 
> I'm surprised he didn't suggest a torque-multi as Jim did. If you use  
> an extension on the socket then you need to compensate for that  
> torsion as well (depends on the length of the extension). 
> 
> KISS, we're closer to farm equipment standards here than race cars. :) 
> 
> ? ? ? ? Cheers, Russ 
> ? ? ? ? Sweet 35 mk-1 
> 
> At 11:01 AM 17/10/2014, you wrote: 
>> 
>> Hello Listers, 
>> 
>> While on the hard want to check the nuts on the keel bolts and  
>> understand 250 lbs is needed. ?Boat mechanic says it is very  
>> difficult to get the proper leverage deep in the bilge. ?Anyone ever  
>> used a small jack and maybe also with a cheater pipe to apply side  
>> pressure against the bilge walls to move the torque wrench. 
>> 
>> Also, mechanic suggested slightly loosening the nuts first and then  
>> re-tightening. ?That does not sound good to me. ?Any thought on his 
>> suggestion. 
>> 
>> I thank any responses in advance.... always appreciate the help. 
>> 
>> Lloyd Lippe 
>> Finesse 
>> LF39
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:27:03 -0700
> From: Leslie Paal <lpaalc...@yahoo.com>
> To: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
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> look out for ascenders with 'teeth'; they can shred the rope on a fall, and 
> break the rope (if it is bad enough, but will ruin the rope anyhow).  Gibb 
> ascenders a lot better (more like a line clutch), we only used Gibbs in USART.
> 
> Leslie.
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 10/16/14, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, "Edd Schillay" <e...@schillay.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2014, 5:39 PM
> 
> Here's a
> couple of links to spring off of for ascender climbing.?
> The foot ascenders look promissing.
> A waste strap/line can also be passed around
> the mast and both ends attached to the harness (one end on a
> carabiner for fast passing of obstructions).? This is added
> safety to prevent accidentally twisting upside down and you
> slipping out of the harness or chair.? This is one reason I
> prefer a harness.
> https://www.google.com/search?q=ascender+climbing&oq=ascender
> http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascender_(climbing)
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=2LK20hvHQyA
> http://www.rockandice.com/lates-news/ascender-safety-101
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> On Oct 16, 2014 7:58
> PM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> Listers,
>    Now that the
> Enterprise is up for the winter, I?m starting my list of
> projects -- One of which is some mast work.?
>    Has anyone on the list
> ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if so, what
> did you use.?
>    There?s an article
> about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so it?s
> on my mind.
>    And no, the
> transporter can?t materialize me at the top of the
> mast.?
> 
> 
> 
>    All the
> best,
>    Edd
> 
>    Edd M.
> Schillay    Starship
> Enterprise    C&C 37+ | Sail No:
> NCC-1701-B    City Island,
> NY?    Starship
> Enterprise's Captain's Log
> 
> 
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:43:18 -0400
> From: Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
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> 
> I totally agree with Chuck.
> 
> This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions
> like:
> 
> -  No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft,
> -  No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof,  no GPS, no
> AIS.
> - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm
> - Aimlessly drifting around
> - Gets hit by the container  hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was
> perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine
> running on the container?
> - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in
> the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and
> keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around
> aimlessly anyway..
> - Etc, etc, etc
> 
> I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a
> single word the whole movie..
> 
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> Lake Lanier, Georgia
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:52:38 -0400
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
> To: Tom Buscaglia <t...@sv-alera.com>, "C&C List"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
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> Just measured my shaft.  It's 1 1/4".
> On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I can't make it over to the boat today to check....do any of our 37+/40
>> listers knoe how big my shaft it?  Pretty usre it's 1 1/4 but want to be
>> sure.
>> 
>> thx
>> 
>> Tom B <-- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a subject
>> like that!
>> 
>> Tom Buscaglia
>> SV Alera
>> 1990 C&C 37+/40
>> Vashon Island WA
>> (206) 463-9200
>> www.sv-alera.com
>> 
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:55:55 -0400
> From: Letsgo Sailing <letsgosail...@live.ca>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
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> You could be right...
> 
> 
> 
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> 
> Not for long.
> 
> 
> 
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> 
> SCRC 011059
> 
> SRO 26-6483
> 
> 
> 
> TURBO!!!!!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> 
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> 
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Russ &
> Melody via CnC-List
> Sent: October 17, 2014 12:00 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ebola?
> 
> 
> 
> Yanni,
> 
> looking at cartoons is not really reading :)
> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10678811_947
> 676645253347_5299347798631232381_n.jpg?oh=c0673d63d85a52310d1f0f68c7bcaf82
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> &oe=54BAFD3B&__gda__=1420776167_2dbbff97e2098d371df4cc407ed007e8 
> 
> 
> To keep this sailing related, this guy looks like one of AG's cockpit crew.
> 
>        Cheers, Russ
>        Sweet 35 mk-1
> Wet Coast, Colony of V.I., kinda damp right now
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:02 PM 16/10/2014, you wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From what I've read there are 300000 people die from obesity every year,
> 80000 from smoking, 15000 from alcohol, and I don'r know how many from
> hunger and other reasons. I think it is another way to divert our minds from
> politics and what has been done wrong and it is being done wrong everyday,
> and stir some I don't know what. 
> 
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> Not for long
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:02:48 -0400
> From: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com>
> To: Jean-Francois J Rivard <jfriv...@us.ibm.com>,
>    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
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> Movie was 1980s technology.   I thought it was excellent and conveyed the 
> sense of individual courage in a period of desperation and impending doom.  
> The boat was allegorical.  The ending scene was from Michelangelo's Sistine
> Chapel.  Jerry
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I totally agree with Chuck.  
>> 
>> This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions 
>> like: 
>> 
>> -  No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft,
>> -  No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof,  no GPS, no AIS.
>> - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm
>> - Aimlessly drifting around
>> - Gets hit by the container  hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was 
>> perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine 
>> running on the container? 
>> - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in 
>> the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and 
>> keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around 
>> aimlessly anyway..
>> - Etc, etc, etc
>> 
>> I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a 
>> single word the whole movie.. 
>> 
>> -Francois Rivard
>> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
>> Lake Lanier, Georgia
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:33:17 -0300
> From: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>
> To: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List How Big is my Shaft
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> They say this cat Shaft is a bad mother
> SHUT YOUR MOUTH!
> I'm talkin' 'bout Shaft.
> THEN WE CAN DIG IT!
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> 
>> On 2014-10-17 8:52 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List wrote:
>> 
>> Just measured my shaft.  It's 1 1/4".
>> 
>> On Oct 17, 2014 6:05 PM, "Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List" 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    I can't make it over to the boat today to check....do any of our
>>    37+/40 listers knoe how big my shaft it?  Pretty usre it's 1 1/4
>>    but want to be sure.
>> 
>>    thx
>> 
>>    Tom B <-- leaving himself wide open to all sorts of stuff with a
>>    subject like that!
>> 
>>    Tom Buscaglia
>>    SV Alera
>>    1990 C&C 37+/40
>>    Vashon Island WA
>>    (206) 463-9200 <tel:%28206%29%20463-9200>
>>    www.sv-alera.com
>>    <http://www.sv-alera.com/>
>> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:34:05 -0500
> From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca>
> To: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List All is lost.. Disapointing flick
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> It upset me that after the storm he stepped back aboard the 3/4 sunk boat in 
> a dead calm and instead of trying to pump out and save her, he stepped into 
> the life raft. But to the movies credit this was not a how to movie. This was 
> a story of one man and what he did, right or wrong. Nobody ever said he was 
> an educated sailor nor was it implied. There are a lot of boneheads and 
> credit card captains who venture offshore and haven't the slightest idea how 
> to cope when things go sideways.
> That being said it's not exactly on my like list of sailing cinema. 
> 
> Brent
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:02 PM, Jerome Tauber via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Movie was 1980s technology.   I thought it was excellent and conveyed the 
>> sense of individual courage in a period of desperation and impending doom.  
>> The boat was allegorical.  The ending scene was from Michelangelo's Sistine
>> Chapel.  Jerry
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I totally agree with Chuck.  
>>> 
>>> This is not a sailing movie, it's full of holes and convenient omissions 
>>> like: 
>>> 
>>> -  No EPIRB, yet had a sophisticated life raft,
>>> -  No backup waterproof VHF radio ,main VHF not water proof,  no GPS, no 
>>> AIS.
>>> - Leaves the companion way open in a heavy storm
>>> - Aimlessly drifting around
>>> - Gets hit by the container  hard enough to make a huge hole yet it was 
>>> perfectly calm, still, and his engine is not running. Was there an engine 
>>> running on the container? 
>>> - Tacks and puts the gaping hole to leeward therefore getting the hole in 
>>> the drink, with un-trimmed sails, shouldn't he had kept it to windward and 
>>> keep it dry while figuring out what to do? He was while sailing around 
>>> aimlessly anyway..
>>> - Etc, etc, etc
>>> 
>>> I guess he gets some credit for conveying all the emotions without saying a 
>>> single word the whole movie.. 
>>> 
>>> -Francois Rivard
>>> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
>>> Lake Lanier, Georgia
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:43:36 -0500
> From: Brent Driedger <bren...@highspeedcrow.ca>
> To: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>,    "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Self-Climbers?
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> This is how I'm setting up next year using a Grigri. It makes a great 
> ascender / descender. Check it out. 
> http://youtu.be/BkErYrEWOMA
> 
> Brent
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>>    Now that the Enterprise is up for the winter, I?m starting my list of 
>> projects -- One of which is some mast work. 
>> 
>>    Has anyone on the list ever rigged their own mast self-climber, and, if 
>> so, what did you use. 
>> 
>>    There?s an article about it in the latest issue of Practical Sailor, so 
>> it?s on my mind.
>> 
>>    And no, the transporter can?t materialize me at the top of the mast. 
>> 
>> 
>>    All the best,
>> 
>>    Edd
>> 
>> 
>>    Edd M. Schillay
>>    Starship Enterprise
>>    C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
>>    City Island, NY 
>>    Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:47:47 -0400
> From: Letsgo Sailing <letsgosail...@live.ca>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
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> Ed, I don't think I have heard of Farley Mowat and I am sorry to hear he
> passed. 
> 
> I have watched that movie and it brought some old sad memories. I don't know
> what you were expecting to see. 
> 
> I was in almost the same situation in a life-raft for three days after a
> freighter run me over overnight between Malta and Sicilia. It was 1976 That
> movie was not an adventure to watch over a bowl of popcorn, it was about
> surrender.
> 
> 
> 
> Yanni Boatless in Ontario
> 
> Not for long.
> 
> 
> 
> 92 Lebaron 3.0 convertible
> 
> 95 LeBaron 3.0 turbo convertible
> 
> 07 Yamaha Straotoliner S
> 
> SCRC 011059
> 
> SRO 26-6483
> 
> 
> 
> TURBO!!!!!cause bottles are for babies and superchargers blow!!!
> 
> Which would you rather have, go fast goodies or shiny shoes?
> 
> Your feet may look good but if your engine blows you ain't going nowhere
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ed Dooley
> via CnC-List
> Sent: October 17, 2014 2:36 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks, and All Is Lost
> 
> 
> 
> Farley Mowat also had the distinction of being banned from the U.S.
> He was getting on a plane in Toronto for a book tour in the U.S. when he was
> told
> he wasn't allowed in. He was on a list of Anarchists, Communists, and other
> ne'er do wells.
> Not a book, but has anyone seen the sailing disaster film, All Is Lost, with
> Robert Redford?
> I had high expectations, but was pretty disappointed.
> Ed
> 
> 
> From: Paul Fountain <p...@seasource.ca <mailto:p...@seasource.ca> >
> To: "Richard N. Bush" <bushma...@aol.com <mailto:bushma...@aol.com> >,
> "<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >"
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Farley Mowat and thanks
> Message-ID: <b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca
> <mailto:b1e1531b-97e3-4b0b-96cf-026049d70...@seasource.ca> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Sadly Farley Mowat recently passed away.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Oct 17, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
> Sometime last spring, someone on the list mentioned that he was reading the
> Farley Mowat book; "The Boat Who Wouldn't Float"; I had never heard of Mr.
> Mowat, but noted that the comment was that the book was enjoyable. So I
> picked up a used paperback copy on ebay.  I laid it aside during spring
> launch and other activities, and came across it a couple of weeks ago.   I
> just finished the book and I am hooked. This was a great read and I couldn't
> put it down.  Since I know little of the northern waters described in the
> book, I kept my laptop next to me and scoped out all of the places they
> went, which made it even more enjoyable.   So thank you to whomever it was
> that suggested the book, I am now a Mowat fan!
> 
> Richard
> 1985 37 CB, Ohio River, Mile 584;
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
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