Petar,
I will be removing my mast this fall when I haul the boat. I have no knowledge of the history of maintenance on my rig and would like to have a competent rigger take a look at it for me. For all I know everything on the boat is original equipment, thus it is 40 years old. I have all rod rigging except the forestay and baby stay and, of course my two runners. You mentioned a rigger in Fall River that is the original C&C rigger. I would appreciate the contact info. If you want to send it off list, me email address is bstrat...@falconnect.com. Are there any other owners of the 33 foot ¾ tonner on this list? I dont know how many were built or for how long. Mine was built in 1974. It is not well suited for cruising and frankly the layout is pretty sparse for a 33 foot hull but I love the way she sails. Thanks, Burt From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Petar Horvatic via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 9:11 AM To: 'Ron Casciato'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com; 'Dennis C.' Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging A lot of people dont like the rod, but there are few nice things about it. For instance, it does not let water in like the wire braid does at the swage. So there is no oxygen depleted water inside the fitting. Unlike the swage, where you never know the conditions of stainless inside, rod is easily inspected by disassembling the stem balls from the turnbuckles or tangs, provided they are not galled. If you read up about it a bit, you can magnaflux them for cracks and determine what needs replacement. Tricky part with rod is cold-forming the stem balls without cracks. As Dennis said, re-heading. Not many riggers can do it. And if it forms with cracks after a few tries, you pretty much have to throw away the length of the stay and start over. Ive seen few rod-rig boats with spreaders that are asymmetrical or not bisecting the shrouds. I suspect for this very reason. If you decide to go with this boat, and if you need someone, Ill send you the contact of original C&C rigger, he is in Fall River. I had him come by after I got nowhere with Hall Spars(besides giving them a lot of money). My rig was in the cradle one summer and we went over a lot of the points. I ended doing a lot of the work myself and he came by after to inspect it. He also provided all the parts I needed so I didnt have to spend too much time researching components. This was back in 06 and I am getting ready to take the mast down this fall again after close to 10k miles and 8 years. Either you spent a lot of money for someone else to deal with issues on your boat, or you spend your own time to learn and know how to inspect, replace and maintain your own systems. Rig is no exception. It requires attention to detail and mistakes can be devastating. But so can be mistakes with many other boat systems. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Casciato via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:51 PM To: 'Dennis C.'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging David: Just my 2 cents worth .. Since youre in Newport RI, you have way more rigging expertise at your fingertips than most of us on this list .Newport is full of competition boats and riggers and such. Find someone local and have them look at the rig. MY 38MKIIC is a 1977 vintage and has the original rod rigging that came with the boat. My mast is, however, a Stearns mast instead of the standard C&C one. I have had my mast down several times in the past 16 years of ownership and Ive also had the rigging checked each time. Regardless of mast manufacturer, rod rigging is still a better option from my perspective To date (now Ive really jinxed it) it is in fine shape and I expect it to last a long time. We race this boat so it gets more stress than usual cruising does and still the rod is intact and healthy. Just for thought . Ron C. Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC .77 Incidentally ..they are making new C&Cs right down the road from Newport and you might drop in there to get an opinion .Principles there were related to the C&C production effort in RI back in the day they should be great resources for you locally . _____ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 10:57 AM To: David Dawes; CnClist Subject: Re: Stus-List thread reply and rod rigging David, If you're looking at reheading all the rigging, think about pulling the rig, removing all the shrouds, coiling them up and taking them to a NavTec shop. You can coil the rod to no LESS than 200 times diameter and strap it to an "X" made of 2 x 4's for transport. UPS will ship it. You didn't say where you were. There may be a NavTec shop near you. Throw it in a pickup and drive it there. Before you coil it, make a list of each rod and carefully measure the pin to pin distance. That is, between the centers of the hole in each end. Also measure the pin diameters. Now you have a record of the rig. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 7:19 AM, David Dawes via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi, can someone tell me how to reply to a thread? Sorry, I cant figure it out. So I started a new one. Next I looked at a 1984 CNC 35 M3 yesterday. Concerned about the rod rigging. This boat is run down so I dont expect a record of rigging inspection or service. A rigger friend recommended full replacement. Is this correct? And what are alternatives? What is a rod replacement cost approx? And is a wire replacement smart/ advisable/ cost effective or too heavy? Technology has moved ahead in 30 years. I love the boat layout etc. But suspect rigging will kill my offshore pleasure! Many thanks, David. 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