1st off - you can parallel them into one controller with only the very tiniest 
loss of efficiency despite shadows.
2nd - many controllers out there are crap at best. Morningstar makes excellent 
PWM and MPPT controllers. I have had great luck with mine. I would not even 
consider cheap FleaBay contollers. YMMV.  PWM controllers are less efficient, 
but they are a lot cheaper.
See 
http://support.morningstarcorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Trad-PWM-vs-TrakStar-MPPT-April-2014.pdf
Morningstar MPPT :
http://www.amazon.com/Morningstar-Sunsaver-TrackStar-Charge-Controller/dp/B006H9VPL6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1413293847&sr=8-1&keywords=morningstar+solar+controller+mppt+15+amp
  about $220.

http://www.amazon.com/MorningStar-ProStar-PS-30-Charge-Controller/dp/B003YIB7QQ/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1413293962&sr=8-7&keywords=morningstar+solar+controller+PWM

About half that price and includes an anchor light output.

Just get one QUALITY controller. Good PWM beats some random MPPT scavenged off 
of Fleabay. Don't forget to look at panel amp output, don't do the math for 12  
volts. Most panels are 16-18 volts, so 200 watts at 16 volts is 12.5 amps and 
within the range of a 15 amp controller.


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Hey folks,

I'm looking to add solar panels to my boat.  I have a new hard top dodger that 
will be a great place to mount some flexible panels.  I realize that attention 
will have to be given to the boom so that it's shadow it minimized.  I've given 
consideration to the fact that some shadow is likely inevitable.  My 
understanding is that one large solar panel can have a substantial drop in it's 
output or be completely disabled if only a relatively small shadow is cast.  As 
such I am planning for 4 smaller 50w panels instead of 2 100w panels.  The idea 
being that a small shadow will only disable 1 or 2 of the panels at a time.  
This design also adds reliability such that a mechanical or electrical failure 
of a single panel doesn't disable the entire system.  Additionally, a smaller 
panel is easier to replace and cost less.

To ensure reliability I was also planning to NOT creat an array of series and 
parallel panels going to one controller but rather each panel to its own 
controller.  I believe the current recommendation is to use MPPT over PWM?

There is a wide range of prices for panels and controllers but I'm having a 
hard time determining which ones are a good value.  I know you get what you pay 
for but over paying is silly.  At the boat show, 50w, semi-flexible, >20% 
efficient, monocrystalline panels were going for as much as $500!  I've seen 
charge controllers as high as $250.  I know there are a few ebay haters here 
but the comparable panels I found were $125 and 20A MPPT controllers for $11 
with free shipping.  Is there something I'm missing?

Besides disparaging comments about ebay or about me being cheap, does anyone 
have any insights about the design or component selection.

I was originally pursuing a multi-channel controller but it seems no one makes 
them.

When using multiple (4) controllers do they need to be diode separated from the 
battery?

What about the dump load?  I plan to use a single 200w resistive heater. Would 
it need to be diode separated from each controller?

Thanks,

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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