Greeetings CnC fans Does anyone out there have any insight or experience in dropping the keel on a 33 foot MKII. According to the diagrams in my owners manual one of the five bolts is under the mast. It also looks like the keel will have to be dropped over 1.5 feet in order to clear the keel bolt from the keel stub due to the length of the two most fwd bolts.
any correspondence on this subject would be appreciated especially fot the 33 MKII. I am hauling her tomorrow due to a grounding incident which seems to have only shown evidence of cosmetic flaking. Marcus 1986 CnC 33 MKII Victoria BC ----- Original Message ----- From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:00:03 AM Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 104, Issue 1 Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo (Russ & Melody) 2. Battery chargers. (Glen Eddie) 3. Re: Battery chargers. (Dennis C.) 4. Re: Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley) 5. Re: Battery chargers. (Joe Della Barba) 6. Re: Battery chargers. (Rich Knowles) 7. Re: Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:21:48 -0700 From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo Message-ID: <mailman.10.1409587203.5775.cnc-list_cnc-list....@cnc-list.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Hi Guys, No affiliation here, just thought I will pass along for anyone who might be interested. Seems pretty good considering fresh water cooled an electronic ignition. http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/boa/4622990799.html Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <20140831223519.6082707.60787.30...@torkinmanes.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i ________________________________ Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 ged...@torkinmanes.com<mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com> VCard<http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> Torkin Manes LLP Barristers & Solicitors 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 Toronto ON M5C 2W7 torkinmanes.com<http://www.torkinmanes.com> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms<http://www.ialawfirms.com> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/384d1776/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:41:03 -0500 From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com> To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. Message-ID: <CANir+ytAqGBMB8=nb1ksehnw3be_7ncjihkjgvdfvk3qs2g...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mastervolt ChargeMaster 12/25-3 or 12/35-3 or a Blue Sea Systems 7521 25 amp. If you can find one on eBay, a old Xantrex Truecharge 20+ (NOT a Truecharge 2). Here's a link to a refurbished one: < http://www.neobits.com/xantrex_804_0220r_truecharge_20_reburbished_p5505650.html?atc=gbp&gclid=CNKS0pDxvsACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ > Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c > 35 mk i > > ------------------------------ > > Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > ged...@torkinmanes.com VCard > <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> > Torkin Manes LLP > Barristers & Solicitors > > 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 > Toronto ON M5C 2W7 > torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com> > Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms > <http://www.ialawfirms.com> > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received > this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email > message. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/0e775db0/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:04:12 -0500 From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. Message-ID: <CA+zaCRAg7abX0pt=jtpdjn7cujdz+epqjo_es2zbpt7+gkf...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are a lot of great options out there. My expierience with Xantrex TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying away from them. As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues. http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/ Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger. It should be selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank. 25% of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c > 35 mk i > > ------------------------------ > > Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > ged...@torkinmanes.com VCard > <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> > Torkin Manes LLP > Barristers & Solicitors > > 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 > Toronto ON M5C 2W7 > torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com> > Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms > <http://www.ialawfirms.com> > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received > this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email > message. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/88442dad/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:29:13 -0400 From: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. Message-ID: <003101cfc58c$85a01d30$90e05790$@dellabarba.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 This store seems to have good deals. I have an old metal TrueCharge that hasn't been made in a long time. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM To: Glen Eddie; C&C List Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. There are a lot of great options out there. My expierience with Xantrex TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying away from them. As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues. http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp- series/ Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger. It should be selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank. 25% of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i _____ Glen Eddie Tel: 416-777-5357 <tel:416-777-5357> Fax: 1-888-812-2557 <tel:1-888-812-2557> ged...@torkinmanes.com <mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com> VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> Torkin Manes LLP Barristers & Solicitors 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 Toronto ON M5C 2W7 <http://www.torkinmanes.com> torkinmanes.com <http://www.ialawfirms.com> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank you. _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/e947af17/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:39:49 -0300 From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> To: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>, "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. Message-ID: <17319c66-a4fc-45be-9210-3f6eb5351...@sailpower.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with minimal dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging overnight with a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the batteries after a day or two on the water. Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have three batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine starting. Just curious. Rich > On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 > > This store seems to have good deals. I have an old metal TrueCharge that > hasn?t been made in a long time. > > Joe Della Barba > j...@dellabarba.com > > Coquina > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM > To: Glen Eddie; C&C List > Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. > > There are a lot of great options out there. My expierience with Xantrex > TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying > away from them. As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp) > and have had absolutely no issues. > > http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/ > > Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger. It should be > selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank. 25% of > capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i > > > Glen Eddie > Tel: 416-777-5357 > Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > ged...@torkinmanes.com > VCard > > Torkin Manes LLP > Barristers & Solicitors > > 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 > Toronto ON M5C 2W7 > torkinmanes.com > Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this > message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. > Thank you. > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page > at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140901/8c46ab3c/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:35:41 -0500 From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. Message-ID: <ca+zacranp1nfzkajbccsqpbtp7hyv36krxlrun7dasxyxor...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I would generally agree with you Rich about the lack of need for a massive charger. However, if the boat is being used for multiday passages or even just very short stops between long days of sailing and no motor, then topping up the batteries quickly has its advantages. A few places i've been where this was an advantage are Reedville VA, Yorktown VA, and Hampton VA where you can pull up for dinner or to walk the town for free but it will cost you to stay the night. A 10amp charger for 8 hours overnight will only get you 80amp-hours of bulk charge, less for absorption and no time for conditioning. My fridge averages ~5amps per hour so a 24hr day costs me ~100 amp-hours. That's not counting the stereo, vhf, sailing instruments, nav lights, anchor light, cabin lights, water pump, vacu-flush, auto-helm. Bear in mind that if my biggest and only expected load was the fridge and I planned on needing 100amp-hours per day then I would need to plan on having a 200amp-hour battery bank (roughly 2 standard deep cycle batteries) because, in general draining the batteries below 50% will shorten their life. Thus 25% charging capacity = a 50amp charger. Like I said these examples are I little bit more towards the exception but it does show the need to have both an adequately sized battery bank and an adequately sized battery charger. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk On Aug 31, 2014 11:40 PM, "Rich Knowles via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with > minimal dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging > overnight with a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the > batteries after a day or two on the water. > > Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have > three batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine > starting. > Just curious. > > Rich > > On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 > > > > This store seems to have good deals. I have an old metal TrueCharge that > hasn't been made in a long time. > > > > Joe Della Barba > > j...@dellabarba.com > > > > Coquina > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM > *To:* Glen Eddie; C&C List > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Battery chargers. > > > > There are a lot of great options out there. My expierience with Xantrex > TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend > staying away from them. As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner > (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues. > > > http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/ > > Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger. It should be > selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank. 25% > of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > > Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 > mk i > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *Glen Eddie* > > Tel: 416-777-5357 > > Fax: 1-888-812-2557 > > ged...@torkinmanes.com > > VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> > > > *Torkin Manes LLP* > Barristers & Solicitors > > 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500 > Toronto ON M5C 2W7 > torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com> > Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms > <http://www.ialawfirms.com> > > This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named > recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential > and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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