Greeetings CnC  fans

Does anyone out there have any insight or experience in dropping the keel on a 
33 foot MKII. According to the diagrams in my owners manual one of the five 
bolts is under the mast.  It also looks like the keel will have to be dropped 
over 1.5 feet in order to clear the  keel bolt from the keel stub due to the 
length of the two most fwd bolts. 

any correspondence on this subject would be appreciated especially fot the 33 
MKII. I am hauling her tomorrow due to a grounding incident which seems to have 
only shown evidence of cosmetic flaking. 

Marcus
1986 CnC 33 MKII
Victoria BC  

----- Original Message -----
From: cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:00:03 AM
Subject: CnC-List Digest, Vol 104, Issue 1

Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to
        cnc-list@cnc-list.com

To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
        http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
        cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com

You can reach the person managing the list at
        cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com

When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..."


Today's Topics:

   1.  Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo (Russ & Melody)
   2.  Battery chargers. (Glen Eddie)
   3. Re:  Battery chargers. (Dennis C.)
   4. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)
   5. Re:  Battery chargers. (Joe Della Barba)
   6. Re:  Battery chargers. (Rich Knowles)
   7. Re:  Battery chargers. (Josh Muckley)


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:21:48 -0700
From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4 on Craigslist Nanaimo
Message-ID:
        <mailman.10.1409587203.5775.cnc-list_cnc-list....@cnc-list.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"

Hi Guys,

No affiliation here, just thought I will pass along for anyone who 
might be interested. Seems pretty good considering fresh water cooled 
an electronic ignition.

http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/boa/4622990799.html

         Cheers, Russ
         Sweet 35 mk-1
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/6b6f92c9/attachment.html>

------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:35:20 +0000
From: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID: <20140831223519.6082707.60787.30...@torkinmanes.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i

________________________________

Glen Eddie
Tel: 416-777-5357
Fax: 1-888-812-2557
ged...@torkinmanes.com<mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com>
VCard<http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>

Torkin Manes LLP
Barristers & Solicitors

151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
Toronto ON M5C 2W7
torkinmanes.com<http://www.torkinmanes.com>
Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms<http://www.ialawfirms.com>

This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named 
recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential 
and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this 
message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. Thank 
you.
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/384d1776/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:41:03 -0500
From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, CnClist
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID:
        <CANir+ytAqGBMB8=nb1ksehnw3be_7ncjihkjgvdfvk3qs2g...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Mastervolt ChargeMaster 12/25-3 or 12/35-3 or a Blue Sea Systems 7521 25
amp.

If you can find one on eBay, a old Xantrex Truecharge 20+ (NOT a Truecharge
2).  Here's a link to a refurbished one:

<
http://www.neobits.com/xantrex_804_0220r_truecharge_20_reburbished_p5505650.html?atc=gbp&gclid=CNKS0pDxvsACFSgV7AodOBIAxQ
>

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA


On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Glen Eddie via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
>  Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c
> 35 mk i
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>    Glen Eddie  Tel: 416-777-5357  Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com  VCard
> <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
> Torkin Manes LLP
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com>
> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
> <http://www.ialawfirms.com>
>
> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named
> recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential
> and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received
> this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email
> message. Thank you.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
> page at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/0e775db0/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:04:12 -0500
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
To: Glen Eddie <ged...@torkinmanes.com>, "C&C List"
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID:
        <CA+zaCRAg7abX0pt=jtpdjn7cujdz+epqjo_es2zbpt7+gkf...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend
staying away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner
(60amp) and have had absolutely no issues.

http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/

Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25%
of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

>
>  Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c
> 35 mk i
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>    Glen Eddie  Tel: 416-777-5357  Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com  VCard
> <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
> Torkin Manes LLP
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com>
> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
> <http://www.ialawfirms.com>
>
> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named
> recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential
> and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received
> this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email
> message. Thank you.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
> page at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/88442dad/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 22:29:13 -0400
From: "Joe Della Barba" <j...@dellabarba.com>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID: <003101cfc58c$85a01d30$90e05790$@dellabarba.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

 

This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that
hasn't been made in a long time.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
Muckley via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
To: Glen Eddie; C&C List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.

 

There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying
away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp)
and have had absolutely no issues.

http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-
series/

Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of
capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk
i

 


  _____  


 


Glen Eddie


Tel: 416-777-5357 <tel:416-777-5357> 


Fax: 1-888-812-2557 <tel:1-888-812-2557> 


ged...@torkinmanes.com <mailto:ged...@torkinmanes.com> 


VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie> 


Torkin Manes LLP
Barristers & Solicitors

151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
Toronto ON M5C 2W7
 <http://www.torkinmanes.com> torkinmanes.com
 <http://www.ialawfirms.com> Member of the International Alliance of Law
Firms

This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named
recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential
and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received
this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email
message. Thank you. 


_______________________________________________
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> 
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
page at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/e947af17/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:39:49 -0300
From: Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca>
To: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>,      "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
        <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID: <17319c66-a4fc-45be-9210-3f6eb5351...@sailpower.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with minimal 
dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging overnight with 
a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the batteries after a 
day or two on the water. 

Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have three 
batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine starting. 
Just curious. 

Rich

> On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
>  
> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that 
> hasn?t been made in a long time.
>  
> Joe Della Barba
> j...@dellabarba.com
>  
> Coquina
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
> To: Glen Eddie; C&C List
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
>  
> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex 
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend staying 
> away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner (60amp) 
> and have had absolutely no issues.
> 
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/
> 
> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be 
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25% of 
> capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> 
> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
>  
> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35 mk i
>  
>  
> Glen Eddie
> Tel: 416-777-5357
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
> VCard
> 
> Torkin Manes LLP
> Barristers & Solicitors
> 
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com
> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
> 
> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named 
> recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential 
> and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this 
> message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email message. 
> Thank you.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
> 
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
> at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
> 
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
> at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
> 
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140901/8c46ab3c/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 23:35:41 -0500
From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
Message-ID:
        <ca+zacranp1nfzkajbccsqpbtp7hyv36krxlrun7dasxyxor...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I would generally agree with you Rich about the lack of need for a massive
charger.

However, if the boat is being used for multiday passages or even just very
short stops between long days of sailing and no motor, then topping up the
batteries quickly has its advantages.

A few places i've been where this was an advantage are Reedville VA,
Yorktown VA, and Hampton VA where you can pull up for dinner or to walk the
town for free but it will cost you to stay the night.  A 10amp charger for
8 hours overnight will only get you 80amp-hours of bulk charge, less for
absorption and no time for conditioning.  My fridge averages ~5amps per
hour so a 24hr day costs me ~100 amp-hours.  That's not counting the
stereo, vhf, sailing instruments, nav lights, anchor light, cabin lights,
water pump, vacu-flush, auto-helm.

Bear in mind that if my biggest and only expected load was the fridge and I
planned on needing 100amp-hours per day then I would need to plan on having
a 200amp-hour battery bank (roughly 2 standard deep cycle batteries)
because, in general draining the batteries below 50% will shorten their
life.  Thus 25% charging capacity = a 50amp charger.

Like I said these examples are I little bit more towards the exception but
it does show the need to have both an adequately sized battery bank and an
adequately sized battery charger.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
On Aug 31, 2014 11:40 PM, "Rich Knowles via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> I can't see any reason to install a massive charger on a 35' boat with
> minimal dockside DC needs other than refrigeration and stereo. Charging
> overnight with a 10 or 20 amp charger will generally suffice to top up the
> batteries after a day or two on the water.
>
> Also, why three banks? Most of the boats I work on and have owned have
> three batteries; two in parallel for the house bank and one for engine
> starting.
> Just curious.
>
> Rich
>
> On Aug 31, 2014, at 23:29, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> http://stores.ebay.com/The-ChargerGuy?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
>
>
>
> This store seems to have good deals.  I have an old metal TrueCharge that
> hasn't been made in a long time.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> j...@dellabarba.com
>
>
>
> Coquina
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 31, 2014 10:04 PM
> *To:* Glen Eddie; C&C List
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Battery chargers.
>
>
>
> There are a lot of great options out there.  My expierience with Xantrex
> TrueCharge 2 (40 amp and 60 amp) was very poor and I would recommend
> staying away from them.  As a replacement I got a ProNautiP from ProMariner
> (60amp) and have had absolutely no issues.
>
>
> http://promariner.com/products/dry-mount-marine-battery-chargers/pronauticp-series/
>
> Use care when selecting the current capacity of the charger.  It should be
> selected based on the Amp-hour capacity of the largest battery bank.  25%
> of capacity for lead-acid, 30% for gel, 40% for AGM.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Aug 31, 2014 6:35 PM, "Glen Eddie via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyone have recommendations for a three bank battery charger for a c&c 35
> mk i
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> *Glen Eddie*
>
> Tel: 416-777-5357
>
> Fax: 1-888-812-2557
>
> ged...@torkinmanes.com
>
> VCard <http://www.torkinmanes.com/vcard.aspx?ID=glen-eddie>
>
>
> *Torkin Manes LLP*
> Barristers & Solicitors
>
> 151 Yonge Street, Suite 1500
> Toronto ON M5C 2W7
> torkinmanes.com <http://www.torkinmanes.com>
> Member of the International Alliance of Law Firms
> <http://www.ialawfirms.com>
>
> This email message, and any attachments, is intended only for the named
> recipient(s) above and may contain content that is privileged, confidential
> and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received
> this message in error, please notify the sender and delete this email
> message. Thank you.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
> page at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
> page at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
>
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of
> page at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
>
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: 
<http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140831/cc2e093f/attachment-0001.html>

------------------------------

Subject: Digest Footer

_______________________________________________
CnC-List mailing list
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com


------------------------------

End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 104, Issue 1
****************************************

_______________________________________________
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com

Reply via email to