I recently replaced my fuel tank with a plastic one. I will use the same fuel number may have left some gunk behind. Except for some overheating problems she has been running fine. Probably not a problem in new England brought in Southern California the engine compartment I can heat up if not sufficient ventilation to carry off the heat. I have fresh water cooling. My problem has been with the water pump which present straight forward solutions once properly diagnosed.
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 14, 2014, at 5:40 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (bobmor99 .) > 2. Re: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Russ & Melody) > 3. Re: block lubricant (Jake Brodersen) > 4. Re: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (jtsails) > 5. Re: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Danny Haughey) > 6. Re: Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Joe Della Barba) > 7. Re: Swapping coasts and Bops (Ron Kaye) > 8. Barient 23 ST winch for sale (Joel Aronson) > 9. 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue. > (Raymond Macklin) > 10. Re: 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue. (Curtis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:12:54 -0400 > From: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com> > To: Burt Stratton <bstrat...@falconnect.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > Message-ID: > <CAM7ccYJ1=_RJuHPeAH+VY5nL=hvRpnFcwCORVFRm=ygl_a6...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Danny, > This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some > parts. > A couple of things: > 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help. > 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed fairly well > for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than ~30 minutes. Somewhat > recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), the engine hesitated. I have > a pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs > go, so I gave it a few pumps and the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm > thinking there's some sort of blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not > spent any time looking into it. > Bob M > Ox 33-1 > Jax, FL > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/a38cf886/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:27:33 -0700 > From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net> > To: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > Message-ID: > <mailman.35.1408020057.30224.cnc-list_cnc-list....@cnc-list.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" > > Hi guys, > > I understand that Moyer's forum is the best resource for all things > A4 and I sure appreciated it before my diesel swap. > > But I sure hope that Danny doesn't mind our input. I want to hear > from him, it helps to keep my grey cells operating between the grey > hairs. :) I believe he should post to both and not exclude his C&C > friends from this experience. > > In the end, most of want to know what worked to fix it. > > Cheers, Russ > Sweet 35 mk-1 > > > At 05:12 PM 13/08/2014, you wrote: >> Hi Danny, >> This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some >> parts. >> A couple of things: >> 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help. >> 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed >> fairly well for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than >> ~30 minutes. Somewhat recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), >> the engine hesitated. I have a pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It >> was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs go, so I gave it a few pumps and >> the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm thinking there's some sort of >> blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not spent any time looking into it. >> Bob M >> Ox 33-1 >> Jax, FL > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/c031996f/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:33:03 -0400 > From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net> > To: "'Pete Shelquist'" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>, > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List block lubricant > Message-ID: <00fb01cfb757$4f87c790$ee9756b0$@cox.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Pete, > > T-9 works great on electrical connections like battery terminals and such. > It leaves behind a protective film that can be goopy. I flush my blocks > with fresh water and use Mclube in many places. I now use One Drop on the > traveler and genoa cars. It does work wonders... > > Jake > > Jake Brodersen > "Midnight Mistress" > C&C 35 Mk-III > Hampton VA > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete > Shelquist via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:47 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List block lubricant > > > We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I > noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up. We > cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then > re-applied. Same result after a day or two. Anyone have similar > experience? Does anyone have another product suggestion? Anyone use > Mclube One Drop? > > Thanks, > Pete > 37 > Lake Superior > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:41:55 -0400 > From: "jtsails" <jtsai...@gmail.com> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > Message-ID: <97A7B3AEB63A4E4187A4F28DD02916C3@JamesLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Danny, >> From reading your previous posts on the Moyer forum I suspect that your >> issues are fuel related, not ignition or wiring. Having said that, it is not >> a bad idea to have a back up ignition system on the boat and I would suggest >> that you get moyer to send you a distributer base plate, points and >> condenser setup along with a new spare coil. I keep a this setup in my spare >> parts bin on the boat at all times, just in case. you can install the points >> on the base plate and set them,swap the coil, and run a test to see if the >> problem continues, then remove the baseplate without touching the points and >> keep it as a fail safe. Doing this will not only eliminate the ignition >> system as the problem, but will provide you with a backup system should the >> EI ever fail (it does happen on occasions). In a separate test, I would >> suggest a thorough carb cleaning and running the engine from a temporary >> fuel supply, ie a 5 gallon outboard tank plumbed to the carb. This test will >> eliminate the tank, > fuel and filter as the source of the problem. If you also use a primer bulb > in the plumbing you can rule out the fuel pump too. Please be careful of fuel > vapor in the bilge, I wouldn't want you to become the first person to ever > blow up a boat with an A4!!!! As Burt said, sometimes these problems can be a > challenge to sort out, but there are lots of A4's out there that run reliably > and engine problems plague owners of every brand of engine. Rest assured that > the A4 has one of the most knowledgeable and helpful owner and supplier bases > in our field. > James > Delaney > 1976 A4 powered C&C 38 > Oriental, NC > > PS Black sooty plugs mean rich mixture or weak ignition, a little on the rich > side will soot them up almost immediately but will not cause an engine to > shut-down. To shut an engine down, it would take multiple fouled plugs (ie, > soot that goes across the gap). Most A4's are setup to run very rich and this > does not cause a problem. There are some interesting threads on the Moyer > forum about this and the decrease in fuel consumption with a correct mixture. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List > To: 'dwight' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:40 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > > > Dwight, > > > > I won't debate the temptation or value of a replacement engine. This is not > so much a technical discussion as it is a discussion of the balance between > cost, aggravation and quality of life (aboard). > > > > Danny, > > > > I will say that my 1974 A-4 runs very reliably with a couple upgrades > (electronic ignition and electric fuel pump) > > > > My point is that you have options. If the cost of a replacement engine makes > that an impractical option I'm sure you can get the A-4 running reliably. I > don't know your mechanical acumen, experience, tenacity or courage so it is > hard for me to make a lot of recommendations. > > > > With what I have read it sounds like you need to go back to some basics. > When a motor fine for 3 hours under load without a problem you have > eliminated a lot of potential problems like heat, vapor lock and fuel supply, > Your ignition system could be suspect (low or high voltage). Also, quality of > gas entering the carb can change over time. Intermittent problems like what > you are describing sometimes require a great deal of discipline to find. Be > sure to make only one change at a time to be sure you don't compound the > problem and make it difficult to determine what you did that changed the > symptom. Sometimes another set of eyes can be valuable. Sorry I can't be more > specific. > > > > Skip > > > > P. S. Don't be distracted by dirty looking plugs on these motors after a few > hours of run time. Unless that plug is fouled and not firing it is not your > problem. > > > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight > via CnC-List > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:34 PM > To: 'Danny Haughey'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > > > > Think about repowering with a reliable diesel.OK you A4 enthusiasts hit me > hard.but if he likes the feel of sail his Viking and I know that feel is > good, just might be worth a new engine > > > > Dwight Veinot > > C&C 35MKII, Alianna > > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny > Haughey via CnC-List > Sent: August 13, 2014 12:33 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > > > > Alright, the saga continues. > > We went for a sea trial Sunday after the changes, i.e. Vent line cleared, > filters changed, clamps tightened. The engine ran great all the way to > Cuttyhunk. I probably ran it about 3 hours. Two of those hours I ran it a > little harder than I normally do after having read Don M's reasons for having > black sooty spark plugs. I thought my problems were solved. > > On our way home from cuttyhunk, We motored out the harbor and decided that, > because the wind was a little light, we would motor home to run the engine > some more. 50 minutes into our ride home, the same thing, only a bit slower. > the whole, slow, stall happened over maybe a minute or two. Some sputter, > then run normal, a little more sputter, then normal and then a slow stall. > > We then sailed home and into the mooring field. This is actually a benefit > of the engine troubles, I've been a bit intimidated about sailing onto the > mouth of the river due to the current and very tight channel flanked by > shoals and some pretty ominous looking rocks. I've now had to sail into the > harbor twice over this last weekend. At one point we were probably doing 4 or > 4.5knts through the water but only 1 to 1.5knts over the ground fighting that > current. On one side of the boat it a big, rocky cliff and the other shoal. > it was a little adrenalin pumping! Anyway, the approach to our mooring was > dead, head to wind, along with the current in the same direction, I lost > forward motion under sail and started the engine. She started right up and we > motored onto the mooring without incident. > > So, safely moored, I pulled the vent tube, it was clear. I then went below > and pulled a spark plug and it was all black and sooty again after maybe 4 > hours running time. > > I used the Moyer rebuild kit on the carb that is on there now. I'm not sure > but, I think I changed the main jet to the moyer recomended one at that time. > I think it came with the rebuild kit. > > My earlier idling issues seemed to have been solved by swapping out the carb > that came with the exchange engine for the one I rebuilt off the original > engine and had just sitting around as a spare. I think what I would like to > do now is, clean up the carb that came with the exchange engine. and swap > them back out. I'll then replace the plugs and run it some more. Unless you > guys think I should maybe try another path forward. > > Danny > > > > P.S. Cuttyhunk was Amazing! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/8000 - Release Date: 08/07/14 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/12b02442/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:04:51 -0400 > From: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com> > To: russ...@telus.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com, bobmo...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > Message-ID: <a8fxwmaoon03xukamr4s01lo.1407978291...@email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Russ, not to worry. ?I'm working the issue here, on Moyer forums and with > a couple of fellow Viking owners. ?Sending all the same info and. ?You may > notice a cut and paste here from the Moyer site and vice versa > > > From my Android phone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Russ & Melody via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Date: 08/13/2014 8:27 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > > Hi guys, > > I understand that Moyer's forum is the best resource for all things A4 and I > sure appreciated it before my diesel swap. > > But I sure hope that Danny doesn't mind our input. I want to hear from him, > it helps to keep my grey cells operating between the grey hairs. :) I believe > he should post to both and not exclude his C&C friends from this experience. > > In the end, most of want to know what worked to fix it. > > ????????Cheers, Russ > ????????Sweet 35 mk-1 > > > At 05:12 PM 13/08/2014, you wrote: > Hi Danny, > This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some parts. > A couple of things: > 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help. > 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed fairly well > for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than ~30 minutes. Somewhat > recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), the engine hesitated. I have a > pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs go, > so I gave it a few pumps and the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm thinking > there's some sort of blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not spent any > time looking into it. > Bob M > Ox 33-1 > Jax, FL > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/910f83d7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:03:56 -0400 > From: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! > Message-ID: <16bdd7f1-36ef-425c-b0c3-2de7bbd0c...@dellabarba.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > FYI a friend had random A4 shutdowns. I put a vacuum gauge on the fuel system > and it would pull a vacuum before quiting . We found leaves and a rag in the > fuel tank. A new diesel would have quit just as often ;) > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 13, 2014, at 18:58, Danny Haughey via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> Ha...this is a brand new Moyer marine exchange engine. No way I'm going >> diesel in this boat... I can't believe we went this long without that >> recommendation yet... >> >> >> From my Android phone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> >> Date: 08/13/2014 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: 'Danny Haughey' <djhaug...@juno.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: RE: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! >> >> >> Think about repowering with a reliable diesel?OK you A4 enthusiasts hit me >> hard?but if he likes the feel of sail his Viking and I know that feel is >> good, just might be worth a new engine >> >> Dwight Veinot >> C&C 35MKII, Alianna >> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/3995160a/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:49:19 -0400 > From: Ron Kaye <ronkaye...@gmail.com> > To: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> > Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops > Message-ID: <c43e5268-56f9-4298-8a6f-8cdf2e7c8...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Martin, > Thanks for the very helpful information. I am now seriously considering > moving the Bop to the PNW as an alternative to selling her for a whopping > loss - (although if someone whispered a reasonable number to me for her the > convenience of moving electronic funds vs a big old sailboat would be > tempting). > > Alas she Bop will likely be transported when all is said and done. I will > have some questions about doing that for you and the list as the day > approaches. > > Very interesting to learn about the shallow areas there. We would love to > cruise in the BC area. We will need to learn about anchoring over a rocky > bottom. I've never done it. > > Ron > >>> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Out there I would prefer a fixed keel. Do many sailors have swing keel >>> models in the PNW? >> >> I'm not in touch with how many centerboard boats there are in the PNW or how >> it would affect resale value. Hopefully Lee Youngblood (s/v Simplicity, >> 1974 C&C 35-II, cnc-lister) will add his perspective as he is a PNW broker >> with C&C experience. Lee lives aboard his 35 and has sailed/raced on >> Calypso with us a few times. >> >> There was a detailed discussion about centerboards here a few weeks back. >> Based on what I read about C&C centerboard performance I don't believe you >> would have any significant performance loss in common PNW cruising >> conditions. If you plan to go far offshore (Mexico, So Pacific) or >> seriously race, a deeper keel may show an advantage >> >>> Are there shallow bays where it would come in handy? >> >> Yes. For example; Roche Harbor and surrounding bays (San Juan Island), many >> areas and both marinas around Port Townsend have shallow spots, much of >> Puget Sound south of Gig Harbor, Liberty Bay (Poulsbo), the Swinomish Slough >> (between LaConner and Anacortes). With 12'+ tides many smaller marinas have >> slips that would favor a centerboard over Calypso's 7"6" draft. >> >> As you go north to the awesome cruising ground of BC there are places where >> only a shallow draft boat can enter. One bay in Desolation Sound has a >> shallow entrance and must be entered at high tide. The shallow entrance >> keeps the sun warmed water in creating a anchorage warm enough to swim. I >> would not take Calypso in but I did get a C&C 36 in there by leading in with >> a dinghy and lead line. >> >>> Can you approximate the slip fee for a 35-38 in Puget Sound? We might end >>> up in or around Edmonds. >> >> I don't follow the moorage costs outside of Shilshole Bay Marina (kept a >> boat there since 84) but here is my SWAG: salt water close to Seattle $400 >> to $500/mo, Edmonds/Everett a little less (check for the wait list in >> Edmonds), Anacortes +-$350/mo. >> >> A note on Edmonds. It is a great location for sailing and a nice little >> community, but it is in the weather convergence zone. Closer to Seattle or >> north of Marysville will average less rainy days per year. For moorage also >> check out Anacortes for how close it is to the San Juan Islands. >> >> Please let me know if you have any difficulty in digging up PNW sailing info. >> >> Martin >> Calypso >> 1971 C&C 43 >> Seattle >> >> <image003.jpg> >> >> From: Ron Kaye [mailto:ronkaye...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:34 PM >> To: Martin DeYoung >> Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops >> >> Out there I would prefer a fixed keel. Don't most sailors? I consider a >> swing keel to be an East Coast necessity. Do many sailors have swing keel >> models in the PNW? >> As we know, that blade is heavy and takes some effort to manage. It's worth >> it to be able to traverse so much of the Chesapeake that would be too >> shallow otherwise. (And to keep the boat in 5' of water). In the PNW I would >> think we'd just leave it down permanently and it would eventually get stuck >> like that if we didn't make a point of raising and lowering. Are there >> shallow bays where it would come in handy? >> But you do have a good point and perhaps we will ultimately do exactly that. >> We will see what kind of offers we get. However I'm hoping the difference >> between 6 and (6+x) might be workable (depending on the value of x) if we >> can end up with a boat that is better suited for that area. Additionally in >> the equation: Admiral Bop is keen on moving up three feet (or more), and we >> have friends there who expressed interest in co-owning a sailboat when we >> get there - which might make that three feet more important as well as >> affordable. And because we will be downsizing the house, upsizing the Bop >> has a certain balance aspect in the larger sense -which almost makes sense. >> Can you approximate the slip fee for a 35-38 in Puget Sound? We might end >> up in or around Edmonds. >> >> Ron >> >> On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: >> >> Ron and Lisa, >> >> First off it is rarely clammy in winter, just cold and wet. In summer we do >> get a few days of hot and clammy (like yesterday) but mostly the late spring >> through mid-fall has comfortable PNW cruising weather. >> >> Regarding your boat change plans; have you considered trucking your nice >> 35MKIII to the PNW? It is possible the +-$6K spent on the truck and >> commissioning costs would be a better value than taking the loss on selling. >> Your equipment list holds up well for PNW 3 season cruising. >> >> Once you use the boat in the PNW waters your vision of what features will be >> important on the next boat will become more focused. >> >> There is an active C&C community here so if you have any questions regarding >> moorage locations from Portland OR (to the south) to Vancouver Island (to >> the north) I bet there is a lister with local knowledge. >> >> Martin >> Calypso >> 1971 C&C 43 >> Seattle >> >> <image001.png> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye >> via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:36 AM >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Subject: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops >> >> After returning from a family trip to the State where I was born, >> Washington, and spending time touring the area including a brief stay at >> Friday Harbor, the family decided that they would like to move there. Yes, >> we know the winter is dreary, wet, and clammy there. But come what may, we >> are heading in that direction hopefully in the next year, and the plan >> includes the acquisition of perhaps a LF 38 or something along those lines >> once we do. But first things first. >> >> Due to this unexpected change of plans and coasts, we will (sadly) need to >> sell our "Mr. Bop" (go ahead and rename her if you must). She is a 1986 >> 35iii, centerboard currently in a slip in Edgewater, MD. She is in very >> good shape and proved to provide us with minimal issues. >> >> We purchased the Bop in October of 2012 for 40K. She has a 2002 30GMF that >> runs great. In the brief time we have owned her we had her hull blasted and >> a new barrier coat applied. That was the big expensive job. Other >> improvements include a new water heater, two brand new AGM batteries and >> smart charger (Oct 2013), a west marine 10' RIB ding with a 5 hp Lehr >> propane outboard (negotiably included or sold separately). The propane >> engine has been great, though used lightly. >> >> We know we won't get the 40 + 9K back when we sell - but would will consider >> a reasonable offer. I havent listed her anywhere yet - you folks are the >> only ones who know. >> >> If you would like more info/go for a sail, please contact us directly. >> >> Ron & Lisa >> <image001.png> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140813/f2838a09/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:06:34 -0400 > From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Barient 23 ST winch for sale > Message-ID: > <CAEL16P-_t03JYhz2y+x6Qg+ovubWVBTkd31Lozp5U=wzv8r...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I was in Bacon's yesterday. They had a 23 ST for sale for 275. They rarely > get self tailers, so I thought I'd let everyone know. > Joel > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140814/38b7b599/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:07:56 -0500 > From: Raymond Macklin <ray.mack...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue. > Message-ID: > <CAN=6dt6-fwdvdl+uzdkf7ku6zyz2w4gvh62oayotnyhqkgu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello: > > I have a 1985 C&C 33-2 with a Yanmar, Diesel 2GM20F engine. I was sailing > last night and started the motor like normal to get out of harbor. > However, when I went to come back in to the harbor. I proceed to follow > my normal process. I put the transmission in Neutral and reached down to > turn the key and heard the whistle sound and press the start button. > NOTHING HAPPENED. Kept trying on different batteries and still nothing. I > also looked at the gauges with the motor would not start and my gas gauge > read empty and i know i have a full tank. > > We got back into the harbor and someone showed my how to jump the motor. I > started right up. He indicated it might be a fuse. > > Is anyone familiar with the location of the fuse between the key and the > motor and the type of fuse i may be needing to repair this. > > Thanks, > Ray > LakeHouse > Libertyville, IL > > > > Diesel - Yanmar 2GM20F, fresh water cooled > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140814/0d18ecf1/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:40:43 -0400 > From: Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> > To: Raymond Macklin <ray.mack...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse > Issue. > Message-ID: > <calf-bntss22bv6bwvx6hl2+iykjxqnwsxzrvdqvs7nrtjd_...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes, in the wiring loom facing the front of the engine the harness will > have an inline fuse. it runs from the Starter to the start switch. > > I will send you a link to the diagram. > > It's a 30 amp fuse. Sometimes it needs a good cleaning sometime a new fuse. > I keep 3 or 4 extra on the boat as spares. > > > > > http://s148.photobucket.com/user/LTGoshen/media/YanmarGMwiring_zpsab1e027b.jpg.html > > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Hello: >> >> I have a 1985 C&C 33-2 with a Yanmar, Diesel 2GM20F engine. I was >> sailing last night and started the motor like normal to get out of harbor. >> However, when I went to come back in to the harbor. I proceed to follow >> my normal process. I put the transmission in Neutral and reached down to >> turn the key and heard the whistle sound and press the start button. >> NOTHING HAPPENED. Kept trying on different batteries and still nothing. I >> also looked at the gauges with the motor would not start and my gas gauge >> read empty and i know i have a full tank. >> >> We got back into the harbor and someone showed my how to jump the motor. >> I started right up. He indicated it might be a fuse. >> >> Is anyone familiar with the location of the fuse between the key and the >> motor and the type of fuse i may be needing to repair this. >> >> Thanks, >> Ray >> LakeHouse >> Libertyville, IL >> >> >> >> Diesel - Yanmar 2GM20F, fresh water cooled >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > > -- > > *Best regards,* > > > *Curtis McDaniel, * > > > *C&C 30-MK1 East Coast Lady* > > > *Port Royal,* > > > *South Carolina* > > *cpt.b...@gmail.com <bobhick...@rogers.com>* > > > *~~~~ __/) ~~~~* > > . > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20140814/ba4b6b30/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > CnC-List mailing list > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 103, Issue 44 > ***************************************** _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com