I recently replaced my fuel tank with a plastic one. I will use the same fuel 
number may have left some gunk behind. Except for some overheating problems she 
has been running fine.  Probably not a problem in new England brought in 
Southern California the engine compartment I can heat up if not sufficient 
ventilation to carry off the heat. I have fresh water cooling. My problem has 
been with the water pump which present straight forward solutions once properly 
diagnosed. 

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>   1. Re:  Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (bobmor99 .)
>   2. Re:  Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Russ & Melody)
>   3. Re:  block lubricant (Jake Brodersen)
>   4. Re:  Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (jtsails)
>   5. Re:  Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Danny Haughey)
>   6. Re:  Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! (Joe Della Barba)
>   7. Re:  Swapping coasts and Bops (Ron Kaye)
>   8.  Barient 23 ST winch for sale (Joel Aronson)
>   9.  2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:12:54 -0400
> From: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com>
> To: Burt Stratton <bstrat...@falconnect.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
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> Hi Danny,
> This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some
> parts.
> A couple of things:
> 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help.
> 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed fairly well
> for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than ~30 minutes. Somewhat
> recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), the engine hesitated. I have
> a pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs
> go, so I gave it a few pumps and the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm
> thinking there's some sort of blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not
> spent any time looking into it.
> Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 17:27:33 -0700
> From: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> To: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
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> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I understand that Moyer's forum is the best resource for all things 
> A4 and I sure appreciated it before my diesel swap.
> 
> But I sure hope that Danny doesn't mind our input. I want to hear 
> from him, it helps to keep my grey cells operating between the grey 
> hairs. :) I believe he should post to both and not exclude his C&C 
> friends from this experience.
> 
> In the end, most of want to know what worked to fix it.
> 
>         Cheers, Russ
>         Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> 
> At 05:12 PM 13/08/2014, you wrote:
>> Hi Danny,
>> This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some 
>> parts.
>> A couple of things:
>> 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help.
>> 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed 
>> fairly well for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than 
>> ~30 minutes. Somewhat recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), 
>> the engine hesitated. I have a pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It 
>> was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs go, so I gave it a few pumps and 
>> the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm thinking there's some sort of 
>> blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not spent any time looking into it.
>> Bob M
>> Ox 33-1
>> Jax, FL
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:33:03 -0400
> From: "Jake Brodersen" <captain_j...@cox.net>
> To: "'Pete Shelquist'" <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net>,
>    <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List block lubricant
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> 
> Pete,
> 
> T-9 works great on electrical connections like battery terminals and such.
> It leaves behind a protective film that can be goopy.  I flush my blocks
> with fresh water and use Mclube in many places.  I now use One Drop on the
> traveler and genoa cars.  It does work wonders...
> 
> Jake
> 
> Jake Brodersen
> "Midnight Mistress"
> C&C 35 Mk-III
> Hampton VA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Pete
> Shelquist via CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:47 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List block lubricant
> 
> 
> We just finished a week long distance race series and during the race I
> noticed that the blocks that we lube with T-9 become pretty gunked up.  We
> cleaned with a solvent, rinsed with soapy water and fresh water, then
> re-applied.   Same result after a day or two.  Anyone have similar
> experience?   Does anyone have another product suggestion?  Anyone use
> Mclube One Drop?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pete
> 37
> Lake Superior
> 
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 20:41:55 -0400
> From: "jtsails" <jtsai...@gmail.com>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> Message-ID: <97A7B3AEB63A4E4187A4F28DD02916C3@JamesLaptop>
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> Danny,
>> From reading your previous posts on the Moyer forum I suspect that your 
>> issues are fuel related, not ignition or wiring. Having said that, it is not 
>> a bad idea to have a back up ignition system on the boat and I would suggest 
>> that you get moyer to send you a distributer base plate, points and 
>> condenser setup along with a new spare coil. I keep a this setup in my spare 
>> parts bin on the boat at all times, just in case. you can install the points 
>> on the base plate and set them,swap the coil, and run a test to see if the 
>> problem continues, then remove the baseplate without touching the points and 
>> keep it as a fail safe. Doing this will not only eliminate the ignition 
>> system as the problem, but will provide you with a backup system should the 
>> EI ever fail (it does happen on occasions). In a separate test, I would 
>> suggest a thorough carb cleaning and running the engine from a temporary 
>> fuel supply, ie a 5 gallon outboard tank plumbed to the carb. This test will 
>> eliminate the tank,
>  fuel and filter as the source of the problem. If you also use a primer bulb 
> in the plumbing you can rule out the fuel pump too. Please be careful of fuel 
> vapor in the bilge, I wouldn't want you to become the first person to ever 
> blow up a boat with an A4!!!! As Burt said, sometimes these problems can be a 
> challenge to sort out, but there are lots of A4's out there that run reliably 
> and engine problems plague owners of every brand of engine. Rest assured that 
> the A4 has one of the most knowledgeable and helpful owner and supplier bases 
> in our field. 
> James
> Delaney
> 1976 A4 powered C&C 38
> Oriental, NC
> 
> PS Black sooty plugs mean rich mixture or weak ignition, a little on the rich 
> side will soot them up almost immediately but will not cause an engine to 
> shut-down. To shut an engine down, it would take multiple fouled plugs (ie, 
> soot that goes across the gap). Most A4's are setup to run very rich and this 
> does not cause a problem. There are some interesting threads on the Moyer 
> forum about this and the decrease in fuel consumption with a correct mixture. 
> 
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List 
>  To: 'dwight' ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 6:40 PM
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> 
> 
>  Dwight,
> 
> 
> 
>  I won't debate the temptation or value of a replacement engine. This is not 
> so much a technical discussion as it is a discussion of the balance between 
> cost, aggravation and quality of life (aboard).
> 
> 
> 
>  Danny,
> 
> 
> 
>  I will say that my 1974 A-4 runs very reliably with a couple upgrades 
> (electronic ignition and electric fuel pump)
> 
> 
> 
>  My point is that you have options. If the cost of a replacement engine makes 
> that an impractical option I'm sure you can get the A-4 running reliably. I 
> don't know your mechanical acumen, experience, tenacity or courage so it is 
> hard for me to make a lot of recommendations. 
> 
> 
> 
>  With what I have read it sounds like you need to go back to some basics. 
> When a motor fine for 3 hours under load without a problem you have 
> eliminated a lot of potential problems like heat, vapor lock and fuel supply, 
> Your ignition system could be suspect (low or high voltage). Also, quality of 
> gas entering the carb can change over time.  Intermittent problems like what 
> you are describing sometimes require a great deal of discipline to find. Be 
> sure to make only one change at a time to be sure you don't compound the 
> problem and make it difficult to determine what you did that changed the 
> symptom. Sometimes another set of eyes can be valuable. Sorry I can't be more 
> specific. 
> 
> 
> 
>  Skip
> 
> 
> 
>  P. S. Don't be distracted by dirty looking plugs on these motors after a few 
> hours of run time. Unless that plug is fouled and not firing it is not your 
> problem.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
> via CnC-List
>  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:34 PM
>  To: 'Danny Haughey'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> 
> 
> 
>  Think about repowering with a reliable diesel.OK you A4 enthusiasts hit me 
> hard.but if he likes the feel of sail his Viking and I know that feel is 
> good, just might be worth a new engine
> 
> 
> 
>  Dwight Veinot
> 
>  C&C 35MKII, Alianna
> 
>  Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
> Haughey via CnC-List
>  Sent: August 13, 2014 12:33 PM
>  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>  Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> 
> 
> 
>  Alright, the saga continues.
> 
>  We went for a sea trial Sunday after the changes, i.e. Vent line cleared, 
> filters changed, clamps tightened.  The engine ran great all the way to 
> Cuttyhunk. I probably ran it about 3 hours. Two of those hours I ran it a 
> little harder than I normally do after having read Don M's reasons for having 
> black sooty spark plugs. I thought my problems were solved.
> 
>  On our way home from cuttyhunk, We motored out the harbor and decided that, 
> because the wind was a little light, we would motor home to run the engine 
> some more. 50 minutes into our ride home, the same thing, only a bit slower. 
> the whole, slow, stall happened over maybe a minute or two. Some sputter, 
> then run normal, a little more sputter, then normal and then a slow stall.
> 
>  We then sailed home and into the mooring field. This is actually a benefit 
> of the engine troubles, I've been a bit intimidated about sailing onto the 
> mouth of the river due to the current and very tight channel flanked by 
> shoals and some pretty ominous looking rocks. I've now had to sail into the 
> harbor twice over this last weekend. At one point we were probably doing 4 or 
> 4.5knts through the water but only 1 to 1.5knts over the ground fighting that 
> current. On one side of the boat it a big, rocky cliff and the other shoal. 
> it was a little adrenalin pumping! Anyway, the approach to our mooring was 
> dead, head to wind, along with the current in the same direction, I lost 
> forward motion under sail and started the engine. She started right up and we 
> motored onto the mooring without incident.
> 
>  So, safely moored, I pulled the vent tube, it was clear. I then went below 
> and pulled a spark plug and it was all black and sooty again after maybe 4 
> hours running time.
> 
>  I used the Moyer rebuild kit on the carb that is on there now. I'm not sure 
> but, I think I changed the main jet to the moyer recomended one at that time. 
> I think it came with the rebuild kit.
> 
>  My earlier idling issues seemed to have been solved by swapping out the carb 
> that came with the exchange engine for the one I rebuilt off the original 
> engine and had just sitting around as a spare. I think what I would like to 
> do now is, clean up the carb that came with the exchange engine. and swap 
> them back out. I'll then replace the plugs and run it some more. Unless you 
> guys think I should maybe try another path forward.
> 
>  Danny
> 
> 
> 
>  P.S.  Cuttyhunk was Amazing!
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:04:51 -0400
> From: Danny Haughey <djhaug...@juno.com>
> To: russ...@telus.net, cnc-list@cnc-list.com, bobmo...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> Message-ID: <a8fxwmaoon03xukamr4s01lo.1407978291...@email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Hi Russ, not to worry. ?I'm working the issue here, on Moyer forums and with 
> a couple of fellow Viking owners. ?Sending all the same info and. ?You may 
> notice a cut and paste here from the Moyer site and vice versa
> 
> 
> From my Android phone
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Russ & Melody via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> Date: 08/13/2014  8:27 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
> To: "bobmor99 ." <bobmo...@gmail.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> I understand that Moyer's forum is the best resource for all things A4 and I 
> sure appreciated it before my diesel swap.
> 
> But I sure hope that Danny doesn't mind our input. I want to hear from him, 
> it helps to keep my grey cells operating between the grey hairs. :) I believe 
> he should post to both and not exclude his C&C friends from this experience. 
> 
> In the end, most of want to know what worked to fix it.
> 
> ????????Cheers, Russ
> ????????Sweet 35 mk-1
> 
> 
> At 05:12 PM 13/08/2014, you wrote:
> Hi Danny,
> This is a long email thread. I've read much of it but scanned over some parts.
> A couple of things:
> 1) The Moyer Marine website is a better source of A4 info and help.
> 2) My 33-1 came with a newly rebuilt A4 in 2006. It's performed fairly well 
> for daysailing. I rarely run the engine for more than ~30 minutes. Somewhat 
> recently, after motoring awhile (20 minutes?), the engine hesitated. I have a 
> pump-bulb close to the fuel tank. It was somewhat flaccid, as pump-bulbs go, 
> so I gave it a few pumps and the engine ran fine thereafter. I'm thinking 
> there's some sort of blockage in the fuel tank vent but I've not spent any 
> time looking into it.
> Bob M
> Ox 33-1
> Jax, FL
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:03:56 -0400
> From: Joe Della Barba <j...@dellabarba.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit!
> Message-ID: <16bdd7f1-36ef-425c-b0c3-2de7bbd0c...@dellabarba.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> FYI a friend had random A4 shutdowns. I put a vacuum gauge on the fuel system 
> and it would pull a vacuum before quiting . We found leaves and a rag in the 
> fuel tank. A new diesel would have quit just as often ;) 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 13, 2014, at 18:58, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ha...this is a brand new Moyer marine exchange engine.  No way I'm going 
>> diesel in this boat...  I can't believe we went this long without that 
>> recommendation yet...
>> 
>> 
>> From my Android phone 
>> 
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> 
>> Date: 08/13/2014 5:34 PM (GMT-05:00) 
>> To: 'Danny Haughey' <djhaug...@juno.com>,cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> Subject: RE: Stus-List Ok more atomic 4 issues...dammit! 
>> 
>> 
>> Think about repowering with a reliable diesel?OK you A4 enthusiasts hit me 
>> hard?but if he likes the feel of sail his Viking and I know that feel is 
>> good, just might be worth a new engine
>> 
>> Dwight Veinot
>> C&C 35MKII, Alianna
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:49:19 -0400
> From: Ron Kaye <ronkaye...@gmail.com>
> To: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
> Cc: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops
> Message-ID: <c43e5268-56f9-4298-8a6f-8cdf2e7c8...@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Martin, 
> Thanks for the very helpful information. I am now seriously considering 
> moving the Bop to the PNW as an alternative to selling her for a whopping 
> loss - (although if someone whispered a reasonable number to me for her the 
> convenience of moving electronic funds vs a big old sailboat would be 
> tempting).  
> 
> Alas she Bop will likely be transported when all is said and done. I will 
> have some questions about doing that for you and the list as the day 
> approaches. 
> 
> Very interesting to learn about the shallow areas there. We would love to 
> cruise in the BC area. We will need to learn about anchoring over a rocky 
> bottom. I've never done it. 
> 
> Ron
> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Out there I would prefer a fixed keel. Do many sailors have swing keel 
>>> models in the PNW?
>> 
>> I'm not in touch with how many centerboard boats there are in the PNW or how 
>> it would affect resale value.  Hopefully Lee Youngblood (s/v Simplicity, 
>> 1974 C&C 35-II, cnc-lister) will add his perspective as he is a PNW broker 
>> with C&C experience.  Lee lives aboard his 35 and has sailed/raced on 
>> Calypso with us a few times.
>> 
>> There was a detailed discussion about centerboards here a few weeks back.  
>> Based on what I read about C&C centerboard performance I don't believe you 
>> would have any significant performance loss in common PNW cruising 
>> conditions.  If you plan to go far offshore (Mexico, So Pacific) or 
>> seriously race, a deeper keel may show an advantage
>> 
>>> Are there shallow bays where it would come in handy?
>> 
>> Yes. For example; Roche Harbor and surrounding bays (San Juan Island), many 
>> areas and both marinas around Port Townsend have shallow spots, much of 
>> Puget Sound south of Gig Harbor, Liberty Bay (Poulsbo), the Swinomish Slough 
>> (between LaConner and Anacortes).  With 12'+ tides many smaller marinas have 
>> slips that would favor a centerboard over Calypso's 7"6" draft.
>> 
>> As you go north to the awesome cruising ground of BC there are places where 
>> only a shallow draft boat can enter.  One bay in Desolation Sound has a 
>> shallow entrance and must be entered at high tide.  The shallow entrance 
>> keeps the sun warmed water in creating a anchorage warm enough to swim.  I 
>> would not take Calypso in but I did get a C&C 36 in there by leading in with 
>> a dinghy and lead line.
>> 
>>> Can you approximate the slip fee for a 35-38 in Puget Sound?  We might end 
>>> up in or around Edmonds.
>> 
>> I don't follow the moorage costs outside of Shilshole Bay Marina (kept a 
>> boat there since 84) but here is my SWAG: salt water close to Seattle $400 
>> to $500/mo, Edmonds/Everett a little less (check for the wait list in 
>> Edmonds), Anacortes +-$350/mo.
>> 
>> A note on Edmonds.  It is a great location for sailing and a nice little 
>> community, but it is in the weather convergence zone.  Closer to Seattle or 
>> north of Marysville will average less rainy days per year.  For moorage also 
>> check out Anacortes for how close it is to the San Juan Islands.
>> 
>> Please let me know if you have any difficulty in digging up PNW sailing info.
>> 
>> Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> <image003.jpg>
>> 
>> From: Ron Kaye [mailto:ronkaye...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 12:34 PM
>> To: Martin DeYoung
>> Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops
>> 
>> Out there I would prefer a fixed keel. Don't most sailors?  I consider a 
>> swing keel to be an East Coast necessity.  Do many sailors have swing keel 
>> models in the PNW?  
>> As we know, that blade is heavy and takes some effort to manage. It's worth 
>> it to be able to traverse so much of the Chesapeake that would be too 
>> shallow otherwise. (And to keep the boat in 5' of water). In the PNW I would 
>> think we'd just leave it down permanently and it would eventually get stuck 
>> like that if we didn't make a point of raising and lowering.  Are there 
>> shallow bays where it would come in handy? 
>> But you do have a good point and perhaps we will ultimately do exactly that. 
>> We will see what kind of offers we get.  However I'm hoping the difference 
>> between 6 and (6+x) might be workable (depending on the value of x) if we 
>> can end up with a boat that is better suited for that area. Additionally in 
>> the equation: Admiral Bop is keen on moving up three feet (or more), and we 
>> have friends there who expressed interest in co-owning a sailboat when we 
>> get there - which might make that three feet more important as well as 
>> affordable. And because we will be downsizing the house, upsizing the Bop 
>> has a certain balance aspect in the larger sense -which almost makes sense.
>> Can you approximate the slip fee for a 35-38 in Puget Sound?  We might end 
>> up in or around Edmonds.     
>> 
>> Ron
>> 
>> On Aug 12, 2014, at 1:56 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ron and Lisa,
>> 
>> First off it is rarely clammy in winter, just cold and wet.  In summer we do 
>> get a few days of hot and clammy (like yesterday) but mostly the late spring 
>> through mid-fall has comfortable PNW cruising weather.
>> 
>> Regarding your boat change plans; have you considered trucking your nice 
>> 35MKIII to the PNW?  It is possible the +-$6K spent on the truck and 
>> commissioning costs would be a better value than taking the loss on selling. 
>>  Your equipment list holds up well for PNW 3 season cruising.
>> 
>> Once you use the boat in the PNW waters your vision of what features will be 
>> important on the next boat will become more focused.
>> 
>> There is an active C&C community here so if you have any questions regarding 
>> moorage locations from Portland OR (to the south) to Vancouver Island (to 
>> the north) I bet there is a lister with local knowledge.
>> 
>> Martin
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> <image001.png>
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye 
>> via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:36 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List Swapping coasts and Bops
>> 
>> After returning from a family trip to the State where I was born, 
>> Washington, and spending time touring the area including a brief stay at 
>> Friday Harbor, the family decided that they would like to move there.  Yes, 
>> we know the winter is dreary, wet, and clammy there.  But come what may, we 
>> are heading in that direction hopefully in the next year, and the plan 
>> includes the acquisition of perhaps a LF 38 or something along those lines 
>> once we do.  But first things first.    
>> 
>> Due to this unexpected change of plans and coasts, we will (sadly) need to 
>> sell our "Mr. Bop" (go ahead and rename her if you must).  She is a 1986 
>> 35iii, centerboard currently in a slip in Edgewater, MD.   She is in very 
>> good shape and proved to provide us with minimal issues. 
>> 
>> We purchased the Bop in October of 2012 for 40K.  She has a 2002 30GMF that 
>> runs great.  In the brief time we have owned her we had her hull blasted and 
>> a new barrier coat applied.  That was the big expensive job.  Other 
>> improvements include a new water heater, two brand new AGM batteries and 
>> smart charger (Oct 2013), a west marine 10' RIB ding with a 5 hp Lehr 
>> propane outboard (negotiably included or sold separately). The propane 
>> engine has been great, though used lightly.  
>> 
>> We know we won't get the 40 + 9K back when we sell - but would will consider 
>> a reasonable offer.  I havent listed her anywhere yet - you folks are the 
>> only ones who know.  
>> 
>> If you would like more info/go for a sail, please contact us directly.  
>> 
>> Ron & Lisa
>> <image001.png>
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> I was in Bacon's yesterday. They had a 23 ST for sale for 275.  They rarely
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> From: Raymond Macklin <ray.mack...@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse Issue.
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> Hello:
> 
> I have a 1985 C&C 33-2 with a Yanmar, Diesel 2GM20F engine.  I was sailing
> last night and started the motor like normal to get out of harbor.
> However, when I went to  come back in to the harbor.  I proceed to follow
> my normal process.  I put the transmission in Neutral and reached down to
> turn the key and heard the whistle sound and press the start button.
> NOTHING HAPPENED.  Kept trying on different batteries and still nothing.  I
> also looked at the gauges with the motor would not start and my gas gauge
> read empty and i know i have a full tank.
> 
> We got back into the harbor and someone showed my how to jump the motor.  I
> started right up.  He indicated it might be a fuse.
> 
> Is anyone familiar with the location of the fuse between the key and the
> motor and the type of fuse i may be needing to repair this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ray
> LakeHouse
> Libertyville, IL
> 
> 
> 
> Diesel - Yanmar 2GM20F, fresh water cooled
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> From: Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com>
> To: Raymond Macklin <ray.mack...@gmail.com>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 2GM20F Engine will not start - Possible Fuse
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> Yes, in the wiring loom facing the front of the engine the harness will
> have an inline fuse. it runs from the Starter to the start switch.
> 
> I will send you a link to the diagram.
> 
> It's a 30 amp fuse. Sometimes it needs a good cleaning sometime a new fuse.
> I keep 3 or 4 extra on the boat as spares.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> http://s148.photobucket.com/user/LTGoshen/media/YanmarGMwiring_zpsab1e027b.jpg.html
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> 
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Raymond Macklin via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I have a 1985 C&C 33-2 with a Yanmar, Diesel 2GM20F engine.  I was
>> sailing last night and started the motor like normal to get out of harbor.
>> However, when I went to  come back in to the harbor.  I proceed to follow
>> my normal process.  I put the transmission in Neutral and reached down to
>> turn the key and heard the whistle sound and press the start button.
>> NOTHING HAPPENED.  Kept trying on different batteries and still nothing.  I
>> also looked at the gauges with the motor would not start and my gas gauge
>> read empty and i know i have a full tank.
>> 
>> We got back into the harbor and someone showed my how to jump the motor.
>> I started right up.  He indicated it might be a fuse.
>> 
>> Is anyone familiar with the location of the fuse between the key and the
>> motor and the type of fuse i may be needing to repair this.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ray
>> LakeHouse
>> Libertyville, IL
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Diesel - Yanmar 2GM20F, fresh water cooled
>> 
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