Fred

 

So then back to the original question.  Could these B&G H1000 era
transducers be effectively connected to newer Raymarine displays?  All
of the data seems good on the B&G.  The wiring and the boxes in behind
the bulkheads look almost new.  The transducers are obviously working.
The displays however are difficult to read from angles and on one there
are some lines missing on the bottom of the screen. I can however
effectively use all three but would prefer something much clearer.  The
former ST50 and ST60 series were very readable and the new ones
obviously more so.  Also - would not wish to have noticeable lag when
watching speed etc.

 

Am considering replacing with the ST50/ST60 tripack and removing and
selling the B&G H1000 transducers and wiring and everything as one
package.  Also have added a Raymarine A65 for nav station chartplotter
so it would work with the ST50/60 set and as a result have a working
Furuno G31 GPS and antenna to sell as well.  New stuff is so much
prettier.  Call me a crow.

 

Mike

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:12 PM
To: Jean-Francois J Rivard; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List B&G Instruments

 

Jean-Francois - just to expand on this, pretty much any older transducer
(and many of the new ones) do NOT directly output NMEA0183 or NMEA2000
data; most of the depth, speed and wind transducers need to be connected
to a display head which will then convert the signals into NMEA0183,
NMEA2000 or SeaTalk data.

 

The exceptions are the "smart" transducers from Airmar (and others; but
Airmar makes most of the transducers for most of the manufacturers);
these are capable of being directly connected to NMEA0183 or NMEA2000
networks.

 

You can also get boxes from some manufacturers that will convert the
older transducer outputs into usable network data.  An example would be
the ITC-5 from Raymarine which takes the analog outputs of speed, wind,
depth, temperature, fluxgate compass and rudder position transducers and
converts it all into a SeaTalkNG data stream that can be also used in
most cases on an NMEA2000 network.  It's a nice (and pretty inexpensive)
way to move into the newer data network topologies.


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI

 

On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:





Hi Mike, 

The easiest thing would be to find out the nature of the signal is out
of the computers / transducers.  If it's NMEA 0183 compatible then you
just get a NMEA 0183 to NMEA 2000 converter (A Google search will easily
get that)  If not find out if there is a way to get the signal converted
to NMEA 0183 then you take that and convert it further to NMEA 2000. 

Once you get to NMEA 2000 than pretty much all MFD's  / chartplotters
can use it.  Of course you'll have some latency / refresh rate
annoyances as the conversion will introduce some lag in the process. 

Honestly though. It's probably worth a haul-out to pop then ancient
stuff out and pop-in fresh transducers. 

I had that done this spring. It was a surprisingly simple process, the
new masthead was pretty simple to install and speed / temp / depth
transducer takes just one through hull an is very accurate.  The
underwater transducer is the same standard size as the old one (Both
made by Airmar), it was basically and pop-off / pop-in job. 

I installed a pair of new B&G Triton MFD's and a Zeus chartplotter.  The
displays are amazingly clear  / easy to use / and full of neat features.
All the above works on a standard NMEA 2000 backbone so adding other
sensors  / displays in the future should simply be a plug and play into
the backbone affair regardless of the brand.  

Good Luck, 

-Francois Rivard
1990 C&C 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, Georgia





Anybody on this list use B&G H1000 series instruments?  I have these on
my Frers 33 and the displays are sometimes difficult to read (esp at
night and on angles) and are starting to lose some of what I call raster
lines (for lack of proper term).  Does anyone know if there is a newer
Multifunction display that is compatable with the behind the scenes
computers and transducers?

Thanks Mike

Persistence
1987 Frers 33
(I know - not a C&C)

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