It would be no problem at Higgins in St. Michaels (in the travel lift area or 
on the end of the T dock), but I could swim to it from my slip.... I'd love to 
try it coming from the north in Kent Narrows - think I could get past the turn?

Gary
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
  To: 'CNC boat owners, cnc-list' 
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?


  None of those boats could get close to my slip nor go many of the places I 
go. They would be aground in my slip, aground in the marina channel, aground in 
Swan Creek, aground in Kent Narrows, aground in Fog Cove, aground in Knapps 
Narrows, etc….

  Joe Della Barba

  j...@dellabarba.com

   

  Coquina

  C&C 35 MK I

   

   

  From: Chuck S [mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net] 
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:39 AM
  To: j...@dellabarba.com; CNC boat owners, cnc-list
  Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?

   

  FWIW, I notice deeper water exists on the Western Shore of the Chesapeake, 
while shallower waters are on the Eastern Shore.  A keel a foot deeper can 
lighten a 35ft boat by 1000 pounds which plays a bigger role in lighter winds, 
when racing.  Light displacement is not so important where it's windy or if 
you're motoring to gunkhole destinations more than sailing.  

   

  A deep fin protects the rudder, is shorter and thinner, and when you run 
aground, you slimply motor back out or spin her off.  The old Navy Luders Yawls 
drew 8ft.  The newer Navy 44 by Pedrick draw 7.25'.  There are a few TP52s at 
Bert Jabin's yard that draw 10 or 12ft.  Just sayin.    

   

  Chuck
  Resolute
  1990 C&C 34R
  Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

   


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  From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:40:49 AM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?

   

  7 foot draft would make the boat totally useless to me. 6 feet would be 
marginal at best.

  I knew someone with a deep draft 40 and they chain-sawed the bottom of the 
keel off and bolted on a bulb from Mars Metal to bring the weight back to spec. 
At least back then the cost of doing this was well made up by the increased 
value of the boat for the Chesapeake and Mars would give you some credit if you 
sent them the lead you removed.

   

  Joe Della Barba

  j...@dellabarba.com

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson via CnC-List
  Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 9:30 AM
  To: Stevan Plavsa; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?

   

  Steve,

   

  As much as I love my 35/3, the 40 is a lot more boat for less money!  I would 
not let another 6 inches of draft stop me unless I planned to cruise the 
Bahamas.

   

  Joel

   

  On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

    There was another 40 in CT that was asking 29k recently. Same tall rig and 
deep draft. It's gone. There are lots of these.

     

    Steve

    Suhana, C&C 32

    Toronto

     

     

    On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

      I sometimes pick up donated boats for the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum. 
Another volunteer and I just sailed an early '80's O'Day 30 across the Bay for 
the program. He was interested, because it has a centerboard and his mooring is 
in rather slim water.

       

      His thoughts were: Old gear, old upholstery, only two self tailing 
winches, not four.. old instruments, etc..... the boat was attractive and will 
go for low dollars. He was counting up the dollars to make it perfect and 
decided he wanted a boat with fewer issues to deal with.

       

      I think these boats sit around for a long time because there are few 
folks like many on this list who are knowledgeable enough to look through the 
small faults and make an offer. My friend is skilled, but still wanted the 
'perfect' boat with few issues for low money. Maybe he didn't want to have 
another project? 

       

      On the first one, the hailing port is interesting, as the boat is now in 
Maryland. The engine is small and has a lot of hours (almost 2000?), no self 
tailing winches, old (really) Moor instruments (if it breaks, buy new).

       

      The other one looks better, is a lot more money for an old boat - and 
seven feet is a non-starter around here.

       

      Gary

      still happy with the 30-1

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 

        To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

        Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:55 PM

        Subject: Stus-List what is wrong with these boats?

         

        
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1974/C%26C-MK-II-2367894/Cambridge/MD/United-States

         

        This looks like a nice MK II and has been for sale for a long time.
        My guess is the sticking point is the engine. It has a Westebeke 4-60 
engine, which is a 15 HP diesel derived from a 984 cc MG Midget engine. I had 
an MG Midget and all I have to say to that is Yikes! It may run fine, but AFAIK 
parts are nonexistent for it, so when it breaks it is dead forever. Also 15 HP 
is not exactly overpowered for a 35 foot boat.

         

        
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1979/C%26C-40-2647391/Branford/CT/United-States

         

        The boat sounds and looks decent in the ad. Only things I can see is 
apparently there is no canvas and the 7 foot draft. That boat would be trapped 
in my slip except at high tide.

         

         

         

        Joe Della Barba

        Coquina

        C&C 35 MK I


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