Hi Wally,
Thanks for your input. I actually looked over your site to see if Stella Blue had the stud. Originally I did not see any sign of one, but after reading your reply I came across (http://www.wbryant.com/weblogs/bV_1109/bv_205.JPG) which clearly shows the stud. I did not know about the early rudder design change, but you make a good point about the current rudder not needing the stud. Below is a link to an old photo of my 29-1 which shows the stud close to the rudder, but more importantly, it shows how the rudder is notched forward to fit into the hull whereas the rudder on the LF38 (the second link ), is notch-free. In the later photo, the rudder has been lowered a bit and usually sits up closer to the hull. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/99269361/CnC29-stud.tiff https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/99269361/LF38-studless.jpg I wish I could now just plug the hole and go sailing, but I have much more to do. I just completed replacing 9 thruhulls and seacocks(your way). I am rebuilding the Yanmar 3QM30, and I have pulled the fuel tank, prop, shaft, & cutlass bearing, and I have dropped the mast to replace the ever-common broken mast step. I have a huge list of to-dos, but I hope to have her back out sailing by September. - Paul Eugenio 1981 C&C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Carrabelle, FL On Jul 8, 2014, at 8:19 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 04:49:25 +0000 > From: Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List small hole in front of LF38 rudder tube > Message-ID: <53bb7855.5090...@wbryant.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Paul - > > I have a 1.5 inch long metal stud sticking out of the bottom of my hull > about six inches in front of the rudder. Somewhere I have a picture, > but never put it on a web page. Every time I haul I wonder if I > shouldn't just cut it off, but figure what the heck it's not causing a > problem so leave it alone. > > Bottom line: Clean the hole out and fill it. It doesn't go through the > hull, obviously, or you wouldn't have time to ask the question. <VBG> > The hull is very thick there (possibly 1.5" or more) and a good > vinylester or epoxy resin thickened up, with a little patch of cloth > over it will make it go away. > > Here's what I think: The LF38, with a shoal draft, was originally > designed with a different rudder. When I was looking at pictures of > them before buying mine, I noticed that some older boats had a shallow > rudder that extended forward of the post, so that the post was about > five inches behind the leading edge of the rudder. (Just behind the > little stud.) It had the same surface area as my rudder, but didn't > extend as deep. From a cruising perspective this makes total sense. > You don't want to be on the hook or pushing through shallow water with a > deep rudder, because in any kind of chop or swell the boat will rock > over the keel (I wanted to say hobby-horse, but I've been on boats that > hobby-horse) and you don't want to bang the rudder against the bottom. > > I think that the shallow rudder design didn't work. Perhaps the boat > didn't sail as well, or perhaps someone decided that there was no point > building a bunch of unique rudders, when there was a darn good rudder > for a darn good 38 sitting on the shelf. Personally, I appreciate the > big deep rudder on my boat, and I get a lot of lift from it when the > boat is trimmed well. It's about six inches shorter than the keel, and > I always keep that in mind when crossing a sand bar in wind or swell. > > I think that the little stud was there to keep things (fishing lines, > lady's underwear) from fouling up the rudder/hull joint. That would > probably work with a rudder that was only an inch behind the stud, as > the offending item would slide down the stud and hit the leading edge of > the rudder. I don't think it has much value with the rudder you have, > so fill the hole and move on. > > And, here's where everyone will call me a heretic and burn me at the > stake. Once I had to do a spot repair, in three hours, to fix a mistake > made by a boatyard worker. My boat was taking on water, and the yard > boss was insisting that it was my fault, > <*SNIP*> > > Okay, I deleted 5000 words because I was getting metaphysical. > > Plug the hole and go sailing. > > Wal >
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