Thanks Joe, you've basically articulated my viewpoint better than I could.
The A4 has an undeserved bad reputation that, when viewed from a financial
perspective, is a good thing for the buyers out there .. of course, bad for
sellers. However, upgrading to a diesel won't get you your money back ..
either on the resale or the fuel consumption, unless you're motoring around
the world.

I tried posting a story the other day about the Russian Canadian that
recently came back from a circumnavigation .. on a 1972 C&C 35 with ... an
A4. I emailed Stu to ask him to check the filters because I think that
story and videos will be of interest to the list. (he bought the boat for
$1000 in June 2011 and came back from his solo circumnavigation a few weeks
back... had no sailing experience prior).

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have had a boat with a diesel and the 4-107 is definitely a better boat
> engine than an A4 if you can fit one in your boat. Unlike the A4, which is
> the height of 1920s tech, the 4-107 is the height of 1950s tech. Even
> better are the Kubota derived diesels like the Beta that are this century
> tech J Modern diesels can drive a big alternator faster off the crank
> than an A4 ever will off the accessory pulley.
>
> The reason some of us get annoyed with the “A4 oh no you will die for
> sure” meme you see over and over on the internet and various boat reviews
> is it gives people really bad financial advice. For sure if you are headed
> offshore the range advantage and ease of getting fuel for a diesel trump
> the cost, but for local and coastal cruising not so much. PS just did a
> review of the Alberg 35, which is a boat worth maybe $25,000 for a really
> good one, and of course they were going on about “you must get a diesel”.
> So you take say a $20,000 boat, spend $12,000-$15,000 on a diesel
> conversion, and now have – AT BEST – a $25,000 boat. I recently saw a C&C
> 35 MK I that looked to be a decent boat for sail with a 30 HP diesel for
> $16K. That is essentially the cost of the engine and the boat is free!
> Meanwhile the best A4 rebuild is going to run you $6K and not require a new
> prop, new instruments, new controls, etc. etc.
>
>
>
> All that said, it is very possible to have a really bad A4 installation.
> The engines are not magic and after decades of poor to no maintenance they
> may well be on their last legs. The engines are mostly not FWC and may be
> rusting through the block, head, manifold, or all three.  Specific to C&C,
> the original fuel systems would be VERY BAD and DANGEROUS by this point in
> time. C&C used ternplate fuel tanks back in the day that WILL rust through.
> First thing they do is send a ton of rust to the engine and the next thing
> they do is have a hole in the bottom. They rust from the INSIDE, so they
> look fine until you are ankle-deep in gas. The hoses, including the fill
> hose, the vent hose, and the funky rubber elbow used on 35s, were not rated
> for ethanol. They WILL come apart sooner or later. If you have ANY part of
> the original fuel system at all from the 70s it is way past due to be
> replaced. At least on my boat there was no Racor either from the factory,
> the fuel line went straight to the engine.
>
>
>
> *Joe Della Barba*
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
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