I have not done this trip in a C&C, but I have gone the other direction in 
another type of boat.
Sad to say, but you can make much better time down the ICW to Florida with the 
mast down ☹ Tons and tons of drawbridges. If you make it as far as Annapolis 
rig-down we certainly have good rigging shops that have seen C&C 41s before. I 
wouldn’t try to get around Cape Hatteras against the Gulf Stream myself, but 
you can save a lot of bridges, shallows, and S turns by going out at Cape Fear 
and going coastal the rest of the way. Also note you can go out the Saint 
Lawrence River and leave the mast up, but it is a longer trip.  (can you tell I 
am not an ICW fan for sailboats? It is Boston Whaler heaven, but between low 
bridges and shallow water you can do a lot better outside in nice weather)



Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
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Subject: Re: Stus-List NEW OWNER OF POP'AYE, 41 FT C & C, SHOAL DRAFT WTIH 
CENTERBOARD

Jack:

You’ll make much, much better time staying outside once you reach Florida. 
Especially from the Treasure Coast on south, there are endless drawbridges.

As a longtime East Coast of Florida sailor, I’ve never understood the 
attraction of motoring down the ICW. As long as you stay inside during major 
fronts, you won’t have any problems on the outside. With a crew of five, you 
should eat up 150 miles a day easy sailing/motoring in the ocean as opposed to 
maybe 50 on the inside.

As the Gulfstream gets closer to shore, say West Palm, stay in about 40 or 50 
feet of water to avoid the northbound current. Avoid the smaller inlets; 
they’re treacherous. You want to use the same ports as the big ships.

Prevailing winds are east/southeast with occasional souths. On a normal day, 
beating or motorsailing into the wind is not a problem along the coast.

Also, I don’t know what your air draft is, but I suspect it is substantial. 
Sixty-five feet is the max for fixed bridges on the ICW, and there are a couple 
of 55-footers, including one close to downtown Miami.

Your five-foot draft should make it through most of the Intracoastal in 
Florida, although that might not be the case in Georgia and some points north, 
according to accounts I’ve read.

With a 5-foot draft, you should at least think about cutting the corner by 
picking up the Yacht Channel at Marathon and going 45 miles across Florida Bay 
as opposed to a couple of hundred miles to Key West and back.

Hawk’s Channel on the Atlantic side is the safe way to go in the Keys with a 
big boat, but it’s difficult to sail at night due to all of the coral reefs. 
Your draft will work on the Intracoastal (Gulf side) in the Keys at least as 
far as Marathon, as long as you accept the possibility of a soft grounding in 
random spots where shoaling has happened. (Buy a Towboat US card.)

Gulf side has many more anchorages and tiki bars, big pluses in my book.

Sounds like a fun trip. Good luck.

Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.



From: Jack McCall via CnC-List<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:18 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Stus-List NEW OWNER OF POP'AYE, 41 FT C & C,SHOAL DRAFT WTIH 
CENTERBOARD

Hello,

My name is Jack McCall and I just purchased POP'AYE a C & C 41 with shoal draft 
keel and centerboard.  The boat is currently on its cradle at Gregory's Marina, 
Detroit, Michigan.  Next week I will fly up to Detroit and with my five man 
crew we plan to sail the boat down to Venice, Florida where I currently live.  
We plan to cross Lake Erie and take the Erie Canal to the Hudson river.  Sail 
down the Hudson River out New York Harbor and then down the East Coast to 
Norfolk, VA where we will enter the ICW (Inter-Coastal-Waterway) which we will 
follow all the way to South Florida. Next will be outside down to Key West and 
then around and up the West Coast of Florida to her new dock in Venice, Florida.

Has anyone out there made this trip in a C & C ???  I can use all the advice 
and tips anyone might offer.  Experience with laying the mast down and securing 
it on deck for the transit of the Erie Canal is our first challenge.  There are 
several marinas at both ends of the canal which have jib cranes to assist in 
the take down and stand up but I could use some advice as to the type of stands 
we should make to carry the mast on deck.  Any advice as to retuning the rig 
when we stand it back up would be appreciated.  I cannot find any  tuning 
specifications and/or tips for the C & C 41.  I have acquired several cruising 
guides for the ICW but first had knowledge is always the best.

Plan to be in the water by May 15 and then off to Florida by May 19.  I will 
try to post some reports as our trip progresses.

Aye for now,

Jack McCall
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